Monday, August 17, 2009

Hyun Joong: News about Yong Saeng and me on dates in Hong Kong is ridiculous


News reports in Hong Kong reported that Hyun Joong and Yong Saeng were in Hong Kong lately and were both spotted in Lan Kwai Fong having a date with two girls, reportedly having met up with them late in the night and getting into a cab with them.

While it is true that they were in Hong Kong, representatives from DSP have denied that they were on 'dates' as was claimed by the news reports. Official reports state that they were in fact, on holiday with their friends when they were spotted by the paparazzi. They did not take too much notice of the paparazzi as they were going shopping with their friends and nothing more therefore there was no need for them to be too bothered with the presence of the paparazzi.

They also stated that the footage was edited in such a way that it appeared to the public that both members were on a secret outing or date, when in reality it was merely an outing with friends.

This trip to Hong Kong was a vacation for the both of them, after having slogged for their concerts and album preparations. The boys will continue with their album promotions before proceeding with their Asian Tour at the end of their vacation.

*Credits: Naver.com*
P/S:

I think it's really rather unfortunate that the boys be denied their much deserved break, just for the sake of creating scandals and selling more copies of newspapers or magazines. Why the big fuss?? Even if they were seen partying with a bunch of girls and everything, does it really matter? Which young person can honestly say that they have never once partied in their lives?

They deserve the break, and if it's in the form of going on a holiday with some friends, rocking up Lan Kwai Fong or where ever it is they wanna be at and basically just trying to be free, I say go on ahead. I know I've done the exact same thing, at the exact same places.

And it was good to be free.

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Anonymous said...

BUT...BUt...But...but... saengie's SMOKING!!! *teary eyes*

it's bad for his health! he's a singer!! DONT SMOKE!

otherwise, i'm cool..although i can't say that i am not surprised...

kinella said...

they work very hard and deserve to have some fun.

just..yep, singers should not smoke. YS, this is a no no ^^

Anonymous said...

commenting on their so called dates: I say "SO FRIGGIN' SO WHAT"...what's the big deal...at least fans know they really are into girls. They are hot blooded men now, they work hard, they need their downtime...a little rest and relaxation time. They are not doing anything illegal...we now know they are having a bonding moment to solidify their friendship, so that they are not so ackward with each other...lol.

commenting on the smoking: As a non-smoker myself...I really wish they don't smoke. However, as a real fan...I won't critizise, I only will pray that they will eventrually realize that this is not good for their health...and we, the real fans, are concern. Next time fans meet them at the airport, which I can't do as they are not scheduled to come to this side of the world any time soon (wish they would...wondergirls did, why not them.), fans can make it known to them of our concern for their health and that you will continue to support them....they look so exhausted, and that's for their fans. Let's appreciate their hard work and let them realize they are not just loved in Korea, but loved in all countries by fans wishing for them to do a world tour.

REAL FANS...SUPPORT AND LOVE OUR BOYS. ACKNOWLEDGE THEM FOR THEIR HARDWORK AND EFFORT!!! REMEMBER THEY ARE HUMANS TOO WHO WILL NOT ALWAYS MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS AT ALL TIMES, WE CAN ONLY PRAY, LOVE, AND HAVE THEIR BACKS WHEN THEY NEED AS THE MOST!!! This is in response to news/reports that are negative about them. THEY CAN'T PLEASE EVERYONE, THAT IS JUST TOO IMPOSSIBLE (FOR ANYBODY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT)

FIGHTING SS501!!!!

Anonymous said...

i'm sorta sad that HJ isn't with HB on her birthday and he's doing this instead. i do believe these are lies but still...poor HB is what i have to say

Anonymous said...

Guess HJ stole HB thunder again..
When its about time that HB had her comeback and album, people are more interested in HJ 'scandal'..
Ironic...

Anonymous said...

Yap HJ sure stole HB thunder.
Let's help her R2song to be successful and lets all vote HB on Mnet and purchase her new mini album. I already ordered on yeshia.com TO THE WORLD HB!!!!!

Anonymous said...

i think i'm not liking HJ anymore. saaaaaad :( what's up with spending time with other girls instead of HB on her birthday? I'll support HB all the time even if she goes out with other men, since HJ isn't giving her that much attention anyway. We got your back HB. Fighting!

Anonymous said...

With all due respect,

It would be an incredibly stupid decision on both parts if HJ spent time together with HB during her birthday. And from what I know, they both take their work very seriously. Whether they are romantically involved or not, if they were caught seen together, it would cause as much hubbub as this "scandal". Perhaps even more, considering how HJ and HB had a history together. It would be dangerous for both of them (especially since both HB's and HJ's comebacks are well underway). I'm sure HJ would have other ways of wishing her happy birthday.

I admire and respect Hwangbo very much, and I consider myself a fan of hers. But I do not let my loyalty and admiration for Hwangbo get in the way of being rational.

I see no fault in what HJ did. To gain the fame that Hyunjoong has achieved takes an unbelievable amount of blood, sweat, and tears. And to see it tarnished by such a trivial ordeal is such a shame. Downright ludicrous.

It's sad really.

Anonymous said...

I dont mind that they are hanging out with a couple of girls in HK, but my hopes for him being with hwang bo have gone down the drain. Joongboers just got a blast of reality. I can no longer pretend that they are a couple.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure if I should get into this, but here goes.

Who said that love has to be romantically inclined? I consider myself a "Joongboer" but I never believed that they were a couple. What I do believe, however, is that they had a genuine relationship in WGM. (As a realist, even this wasn't an easy thing for me to accept; I know that "reality" shows are far from their namesake. Most of it is scripted or acted.) I don't know whether their relationship was romantic or platonic, but I have concluded long ago that they cared. They cared about eachother (and perhaps they still do).

I'm sure, at this moment, that HB is more worried about HJ than "heartbroken". (During the last episode, while HJ was filming HB, she wished him a successful career and future.)

No, they may not be lovers, but they had a loving relationship (and perhaps they still do).

Good luck with your careers HB and HJ. I support both of you!

Anonymous said...

soo i guess its better to have a scandal wit 2 anonymous women in land far away from Korea at 1.30 AM..
than have a scandal wit his co-worker whom he work for almost a year...
okay, get it!
thanks and bye flower boy! *waving hands!

Anonymous said...

wutever! i'm done with khj...i will still support and love hwangbo but goodbye shillang!

Anonymous said...

i guess i try to remain positive too..
but i guess that is the end for jongbo for me..
bye2 shilang
my eyes now only for our dearest angel

TheSassyTomato said...

I guess YS and HJ badly needed to get laid,LMAO! Whatever, they're young lads and deserves to have some fun, but for YS's smoking, yes it's bad for your health and your a singer. On the bright side, at least his not smoking some hash.

Anonymous said...

i must admit, i was terribly upset with HJ yesterday and i was unconsolable. it marked the end of my JoongBo fandom. I was just disappointed that it has to end this way.

after thinking through it, i concur, the boys have the very right to have fun no questions to that, i was just this upset because i delusionally believe that HJ and HB are together, and HJ will not act this way if they are truly together. Then HJ slapped my face and announced they are not.

today, i can say i undestand him, still a bit disappointed but understand him already. he was not the one who pulled me into this fandom, it was me who decided to believe for something they didnt admit nor deny. and i, we the joongboer do not even deserve an explanation for every act they do.

it was fun though, and this couple had given me so much joy for so many months, and im thankful for that.

goodbye joongbo! it was so nice meeting you.

Anonymous said...

yup i kinda agree too
it's not like him pulled me to believe in jongbo.
it's myself that put myself to believe them.
ahh
whatever
hope hj will happy with what he have done.
it's end for jongbo to me today
i said this because i cannot lie to myself anymore.
i truly have fun while whatching them before this and i gonna to delete all jongbo cut in my laptop today..
i sad but atleast i have fun for more than a year afterall
bye jongbo forever
bye jongbo soompi
bye jongbo proboards
bye jongboers

Anonymous said...

no more love me icon on hb cyworld that links us to jonbo cyworld....
guess this is the end??
"waving hand to jongbo"

Anonymous said...

for me its only Good Bye JoongBo and HJ..
i become a fan of your bcoz of JoongBo but now its gone then i still have the lobe for BO..
-sayonara-!

Anonymous said...

you guys are ridiculous. hb or khj never said or admit they were going out with each other etc.etc., so just because khj was seen out relaxing with friends, which he has every right to do, and the stupid media happened to blow the entire ordeal out of proportion,...soooo what. why are you guys hating him for this? how is this his fault? that's pretty irrational of you guys. if he was indeed dating hb, and a so-called "scandal" occured, by all means, hate the man, but there is no proof of those two dating, just some wild imagination/speculations of fangirls trying to put the two together. it's as if you guys are trying to make khj into hb's property and if he's seen with other females, it's a no no. what about his birthday, where was hb at then for all you hardcore believers. furthermore, why is it acceptable to see her with other men while khj cannot be with his female friends?? i adored both hb and khj myself. i love their time together on wgm and like the above post said, i believe they develop a genuine relationship during the show, whether it'd be friendship or something more. that's for them to know and for us, as fans to respect that.

Anonymous said...

I love hj and hwngbo a lot. Maybe its true,that joongbo doesn't exist anymore after this. I will always like hj but as member of ss501 but not related to hwangbo. To my dear and beloved hwangbo, you will get my support and love all the way without hj. You deserve a nice and loving man with your side. Fightin unni. He might lose you but will be here always. We will not leave you. Love hwangbo.

Anonymous said...

everybody have different opinion ^
if u choose to continue to believe than its ur choice if we choose not too..cant we??
not everybody can accept their action, cant we be hurt, can we be sad,,
to the worst, isnt their suppose to give explanation to us fans??
if u consider us, who buy, watch their work a fans??

Anonymous said...

Thanks for this site for updating us about hj and hwangbo. Hope this one still stays to update what's happening to hwangbo and hj even as not as a couple. Mostly,esp.to unni. Happy birthday hwangbo. We will always love you. Hj lost me as his fan but not hwangbo. Sorry but its true. Peace.

skittles03 said...

all i saw was Hyun Joong acting cool and detached. he did not kiss the girls even as greeting, did not act shyly nor cute, just his normal brash self..

i saw him hailing a cab, i saw him open the FRONT PASSENGER SEAT and help HIMSELF to the cab, nevermind if the girls got in with my Saengie or not..

why exactly is this breakin people's hearts? i've seen Hyun Joong hugging girls and getting drunk with them in pictures, why is this any different again?

i love HwangBo and Hyun Joong separately and together as JoongBo couple. i still believe in them even if i'm no longer as fanatical as ever.

and until such time as either one of them confirms a relationship with somebody else, or i hear of dear HwangBo getting married to somebody else, i suppose i'll be UNWAVERING in my belief in them, after all, they both said they are faithful and committed to their partners.. i just hope they are partners WITH EACH OTHER.


i hope we don't get rutted in this "scandal" and lose sight of the GREAT things happening in their individual careers what with HwangBo's HOT COMEBACK and SS501's SUCCESSFUL CONCERTS.


HWANGBO FIGHTING!!!
SS501 FIGHTING!!!

PS: MY Saengie, i don't mind you smoking, just do it moderately, ARASO?!!! saranghe :D

Anonymous said...

My feeling to Hj and HB isnt changed despite of the HJ scandal. I still like both of them but there is no more fantasy of Joongbo for me.Its like you are finally pulled back to the reality and realise your dream will never come true.

Now I gotta look for a new sweet dream for my dear HB.I'm sure she still has a lot of great guys asking for her love.
** It will be the sweetest revenge for all brokenhearted Joonboers if HB takes one of HJ's best friends as her date. Then he will regret what he lose. Evil me! Wahahaha

Anonymous said...

IT'S OKAY HYUNJOONG. I'D STILL LOVE YOU NO MATTER WHAT!!

HE IS HUMAN
HE NEEDS SOME FUN
HE CAN FEEL SAD
HE SAN FEEL STRESS

SO I LOVE YOU HYUNJOONG AND MY OTTER PRINCE YOUNSAENG

Anonymous said...

We are TRIPLE S always behind you every day and any time!
One Mistake cannot change our Love for You!! You are the one who always bring our Laughter, my lovely SS501!

Anonymous said...

I'm so happy to see how much triple s love ss501!! they still support them and even not blame them. and please go, fans are not loyal. because ss501 also does not need fans like you


ss501 fighting!!

Anonymous said...

wow you guys~ you think HJ is so careless as to go to a foreign country (where it took more then an hour to get out of airport because of fans and where they followed him and his boys on motorbikes) on a "date"~ without any disguise? What makes me more sad about all of this is the double standards you guys seem to have: That on HJ's birthday...if it was HB seen photographed with her male friends, you would react differently. To me, he seems the same~ I'm more surprised at the fact that our awkward couple are together LOL Anyway, you think they wouldn't notice paparazzi following them around...there isn't more footage cause they're not doing anything wrong. As for the person who said HB's "love" icon on cyworld disappered:CyGifts have expiration dates too you know.

Whatever I am forever a TripleS, Hye Jung Angel and SSangchu fan~!

Anonymous said...

He don't deserve her...
He just idol.. that its..
not event normal ppl, normal guy.. just someone only care about his life, his fame, his reputation. He said he like hb when she treated elder well.. when she dose charity work. But never heard he did any thing like that..
Creates good image, makes lovely face..If he don't have that face and 4D personallity.. just only idol.

Anonymous said...

bfore this new break up my daily routine is at least to re-watch Joongbo WGM couple of funny episode just to made my day happier but today i try so hard to just watch one episode...sorry i can't do it anymore, WGM Joongbo has gone and those that i have downlaod i will delete it ..hope KHJ will know his fan isn't just TS supported him there are also huge WGM fan who supported him well just pray for him for his bright future (more CF see how much support he gain back) but for me Ta Ta Buin is my angel

Anonymous said...

just love hwangbo the whole time,never love hj so have no problem. in wgm, hj never shows his care for his wife anyway, well some but only 1% compare to hb. so i will watch who's going be be her husband in the future but hj...i didn't like him through the whole show...so sorry for whoever fall in love w/ the guy...

Anonymous said...

I hope people realize that idols have both sides, one is from Co. package, the other is real self. The 51 sec. clip already say it all. At your choice to keep on believing your idol.

Anonymous said...

After I finished watching WGM, I'm really crazy for both of them and I've looking for more clips of them in youtube. Then I've found out HB was so popular to guys, esp younger guys in several programs and man..I have a crush on U know Yunho from DBSK, who said HW was his ideal woman and he showed his interest in her. My imagination overflows since then to think how it would be if he was her kid groom in WGM instead of HJ. hahaha

I'm sure he would treat HB better than HJ. HJ was a lucky guy to once have her as buin.

Anonymous said...

him and his oh so cute lies. not a strong joongbo fan but love hwang bo. couldn't get myself to like him.he was just um weird.they were at the wrong place at the wrong time and unfortunately got caught. so they came out with ridiculous excuses which didn't really help.but again there's nothing wrong about it. who can't have fun? he's what? 23?long way to go. just that they got busted,that's all.

Anonymous said...

^agreed, he's just not on his luck..
Got caught and busted..still 23 and looong I mean looong way to go..
Who knew what he has done all of this time behind that cute pie face..
Face it, its 21 century, korea youngster, who doesn't do nite life and sex??
But he and his team mates really made an effort to go all the way to HK, guess its so hard being an idol in Korea huh??
Two sided of what so called idol, they must be misrable and lonely...

Anonymous said...

yes it's people's choices to believe in their idols and it's your choice to believe in a (non-existent perhaps) fantasy love. why can't people understand that hj didn't do anything wrong. he was just VACATIONING with friends and yet you guys and the media blew it out of proportion. some of u guys are major hipocrites like some of the other posts said "What makes me more sad about all of this is the double standards you guys seem to have: That on HJ's birthday...if it was HB seen photographed with her male friends, you would react differently. " i totally agreed. and plus, HELLO! even if they were dating, it would be terrible if hb or hj were caught being around each other on each respectives' birthdays. they are at the peak of their careers right now and it'd be even more of a scandal for both of them. they would not want to risk that. so leave the poor man alone. as far as proofs goes, there's no official word that they're seeing each other so why are you guys bashing hj for doing nothing wrong. he has the right to do whatever he wants. so chill out.

Anonymous said...

probably this is not the first time they were doing this, look at YS, he seems very familiar with it. Unfortunatly, they are out of luck this time. SSory, they have to find another new location now. What will you think when you see their innocent looking faces on stage again?

Anonymous said...

^yeah when I see the vid, YS face look so horny and yes what u said, familiar wit the situation..
Again, I had no prob wit that, its their lives anyway and they're human too..
Its just that they celebs, make that idol and get caught by paparazzi..so its a big deal for their fans..

Anonymous said...

"what you don't see with your eyes, don't witness with your mouth"~jewish proverb

-enough said.
you people weren't there.
you dont know what happen.
don't assume and make an ass out of yourselves.

Anonymous said...

We don't know what happen two girls and two guys get on a cab @1:30Am after clubbing. We really don't know what happen afterwords.

Anonymous said...

DSP is so sugar coated these guys.
i guess DSP will appreciate very much to those hardcore fan girls believing their stupid excuse and saying there's no big deal even these guys're smoking,drinking red bull after clubbing + wine and hanging out with half naked girls @1.30 a.m. becoz DSP's money making machines are still functioning.

HB really deserves a much better guy who only has eyes on her. She is too good for kim Hyun joong. Period. Adios to joongbo and my eyes are only HB now.

Anonymous said...

i think they really liked the 2 PC girls. to have the urge to go back again. disappointed but can't blame him because he never said that he and hwang bo were together.

Anonymous said...

Some of you guys are absolutely ridiculous!! you guys are going on and on about how KHJ ruined "Joongbo" and whatnot when you don't even KNOW that they're dating!! I'm a Joongboer myself but I'm not about to stop being his fan just because he went out to have some fun with his friends. C'mon. ANY 24 yr old KOREAN MALE goes out and parties. why can't he?? oh and another thing. you guys bash him for not going to HB's birthday but WHERE was she on HJ's birthday?? EXACTLY. you people don't make any sense. you're admiration for HB just clouds your judgement. FORGET IT. HJ doesn't need fans like you.

Anonymous said...

Kim Hyun Joong! Do whatever you wanna do dude! you're still young, enjoy life, hang out with friends. Don't mind biches, haters, and negative press. Just as long is not a crime or involve hooker...haha...I will support you n your craziness.

Anonymous said...

ummm... why are people thinking that those 2 girls are bad! I mean from the way they dress. they look even more decent than HB in her latest MV haha

jackuon said...

i think HJ fans are becoming clouded by their admiration for their star as well. most of the comments aren't blaming HJ for "ruining Joongbo." they even admit "HJ didn't make me believe." so please stop saying that they're delusional for believing. we all already know that HJ and HB NEVER SAID they were together. it just hurts to have your dream end. they're not pointing fingers at HJ. they're just disappointed with the realization that Joongbo's not actually together like they hoped.

personally, i don't think there's anything incriminating about what HJ did, and even if he was on a date, i accept that. but i am still holding hope for our favorite ssangchu couple. if not now, then in the future. i'll still always love and support both, together or not.

Anonymous said...

gee, everywhere i go is the samething. So disappointed. Seems like only joongbo fan (have to say HB fans instead) are complaining so much now. making every forum are in depress mood. I thought HB wants pp to be happy and since she has a good heart, do ur think she wants to hear your bitching about her friend? If they are dating, let she deal with it herself. she is old enough to know how to handle the situation. If they are NOT dating then who are you to criticized about his going out. I think some of you girls are way over board. your can create your own thread and go there bitch as him as much as you can but don't ruin pp happiness. be considerate please

Anonymous said...

I've been a fan of Hwang Bo since 2005, way i mean way before Ssangchu craze..
as much as i love the WGM does for her, now i feel like its overboard..
people keep connecting him with HJ, oh she wear sexy cloths, HJ not gonna like it, oh they wear the same outfit they must a couple..
its getting to the point where its become annoying..
those people act like they know HB for real, like they are her best friends or something..
it goes the same for HJ fans, ive share a feeling with couple HJ fans before WGM days..
they tired of hearing people keep connecting both of them..
fandom lead to obsession..
that the exact word to describe Joongbo kingdom whos on the verge of sadness bcoz of HJ so called scandal...

Anonymous said...

amen. everyone needs to just leave them alone and let them live their own lives. quit blaming one person for letting down another person when there's nothing linking them together. sheesh. grow up. i like both hj and hb but damn some of u so called joongbo supporters are like just fans of hb and mad criticizing hj for your own ridiculous, delusional reasons.

Anonymous said...

agreed with most of comments. HJ well deserves a fun time with friends and hanging out with chicks. however have to admit that it doesn' seem to be like a behaviour for a man who is in a serious relationship as we expected. My ssangchu fever cooling down. thought he could be someone very special, special. unfortunately, it didn't happen. it's good to be back to reality sooner than later.

will still support HB and glad she had a birthday love musical monologue uploaded on her birthday in her cy, really feel that she is in love. no further guess, but wish her forever happiness and good luck to HJ.

wish all die-hard joongboers could have a reality check for a while, stop any projects to connect hj & hb together. respect them by respecting their choices. if you still love both, please love them as individuals. of course, you can remain the fantasy, but not to do sth embrassing HB&HJ who are living in the real world.

Anonymous said...

geeze..and u call urselves their fans huh..AS FAR AS I KNOW..fans SUPPORT their IDOLS WHATEVER ISSUES OR SCANDALS may arise. like..com'mon ya'll..if u think there will come a time like this and u'll just end up bashing them like they're the most disgusting, not worthy type of people in the world..then UR NOT THEIR REAL FANS/SUPPORTERS.

before this so-called scandal..i'm sure a lot of you were like saying good things about them..for real like praising them and all..and then when this so-called scandal suddenly happened without knowing the TRUE STORY behind it..u all went bashin' and hatin' them like hardcore..it's childish yah know..and now i'm asking ya'll..where did all the praising and good mouthing go? what happened to the "JOONGBOERS FOREVER", "WE'RE ALWAYS AT UR BACK"..blah blah u always say? hmmm...tsk tsk..

so if u cant stand being their fan anymore..then DON'T BE FROM THE START. PEOPLE LIKE YOU DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE CALLED F-A-N-S/S-U-P-P-O-R-T-E-R-S!

still love them no matter what, even though it's good or bad..I DONT CARE. I'LL STILL SUPPORT THEM TILL THE END.

~JeN~

noo said...

U can't blame Joongboers to get disappoint of this news. At least both of HW & HJ know really well they 've got more tons of fans after WGM and it helps alot for their successful career in entertainment.

I just feel a reason both of them never had any official word that they were dating or not is a marketing issue.As long as both dont reject their relationship, All joongboers will follow up and keep supporting them coz of their love fantasy. I think both of them are more famous and well known right now is the result of being a couple in WGM. For example, HJ even admitted he took a role in F4 coz of the reality show. Hb got warm welcomed in her coming back album. If you r their original fans of them, u must admit that their success in career partly comes from a huge force of Joonboers (who prolly weren't a big fan of korean music or their fanclub before.

Lets us not accuse each other no matter u r HJ or HB or Joonbo's fan. I believe at least both of them once made us so happy & dreamy with their roles.

Anonymous said...

i dont know what 2 say
Maybe its their right 2 have some vacation,,,,but i couldnt help but feel so sad and disapointed T.T
Remembering WGM days n all the wonderful memory that they had 2gether makes my heart feels hurt more *sobz sobz*
sigh....hope the best 4 both of them,,,,but im sorry hyun joong,,,,ahhh,,,,i dont know,,,,hope they will tell the truth,,,,T.T

Anonymous said...

jen i totally agreed with you. so call "fans"....weren't probably even real fans to begin with.. pshh.

noo said...

Some fans here said they r supporting their idols no matter what. So if u blame your idols coz of their so called scandal, it meant u werent a real fan. I think u love someone becoz that person deserves to ,doesn't he? no matter he is an idol or an ordinary guy.

So, I wonder in the similar case u will still love your bf at the same rate when u found out he did something to hurt your feeling and your truthfullness? I understand why Joongbo get disappointed and I also understand why HJ's fans dont care about this news. Its becoz they admire HJ as a singer,not as a HB's guy.

Anonymous said...

@ noo:

ok fine..well let's just say that they did became recognized due to their WGM days, but after that they've also worked very hard for what they have/had become right now..kudos to that..

HJ became much popular after WGM by joining BOF and HB also had lots of offers i must say, but still if u really care about them..individually or not i really think that they still deserve a lot of freedom and just continue believing and supporting them.

about that "scandal", i really cant see what's the problem with it. alot of people became so judgmental by that 0.51 sec clip..like hello? there are a million reasons behind that 0.51 sec video and only them + the CAB DRIVER..yeah.im including him here knows what exactly happened that night, where they went and what they did.

i just cant seem to understand why a lot of people were like dissing HJ when he was just hanging out with his friends, while there are also lots of pics of HB drinking and with other guys. isn't it unfair on HJ's part?

y can we be fair to both parties, right? accept and forget..

~jen~

Anonymous said...

typo at the end..

"y can't we be fair to both parties, right? accept and forget..

Anonymous said...

yeah we should leave them alone,,,in korea,idols always try 2 portraying some image that the company create 4 them,they cant be their trueself,oh poor them,,,,i think its tiring
Anyway,i think its better they admit that they had some fun with their gf or went 4 dating,rather than using some lame excuses like taking vacation with elemantary school
Btw,,,,im officially trying 2 get out from joongbo world,,,,wish all the best 4 hb n hj please dont relate the of them anymore

Anonymous said...

umm...they already admitted that it was school friends...why can't you accept that...
and trying to make nothing into something by saying its their gfs.

Anonymous said...

The differnce between HB and Hj, Hb never hide her clubbing, drinking and male friends. She does things openly. Hj protrats as an innocent looking 4D idol. But he has to do fly to HK and do his things which cannot shown in public. "Honest' is the big word here.

Anonymous said...

Supporters of both HB n HJ don't be mad at some of these nasty comments. Those flaky "fans" aren't even worth your time gettin all workup. They are a crazy bunch.
"awww.. I feel bad for HB or she deserves better"....UM bitches, they haven't said any thing about having a relationship together. N fans of HB, chill out, HB is not a looser like some of you are. WHy the hell do you make her look so pathetic. SHe prob. has load of loved ones celebrated her bday with her.
HJ, leave the young guy the freak alone. Why criticizing him for every single thing he does with dangerously psychotic comments like "no he can't kiss anyone other than HB....That bitch from BOF is so ugly, Shilang doesn't even wawnt to kiss her...Our HB is a goddess, HJ is a fucking idiot if he falls for someone else." ahhh Get a grip!!!! Some of yalls are worse than the antis.

Anonymous said...

school friends? Ys look so hornky when he talks to his girl school friend.

Anonymous said...

^well, that's your own opinion. Maybe speaking from your own experience?

Anonymous said...

totally agree with this: The differnce between HB and Hj, Hb never hide her clubbing, drinking and male friends. She does things openly. Hj protrats as an innocent looking 4D idol. But he has to do fly to HK and do his things which cannot shown in public. "Honest' is the big word here.

i'm still in shock. i know it's the normal thing to do but i'm still in shock because hj (and ys) has the innocent image. and believe me, they CHOOSE to have this innocent image. it is not something the fans gave them. because fans can apply images up to only a bit. because they showed us the innocent image, we held that image. on the other hand, hb said out loud (even couple times @ WGM) that she parties. we are asking for HONESTY not prudishness.

Anonymous said...

Honest eh? we all know for a fact that HJ is an honest person..and we all know that he's a bad boy..he said that so himself so what wrong with going to HK and party? cant they do that? and as they also said..they went there for a short vacation. so that's the big deal?

people were only making this a big deal bec. they're celebs..but if they're just any other regular guys..who will then give a f*ck ryt?

YS looking horny? i dont think so. Smoking and talking to other girls doesnt mean they're horny..and with the "scratch thingy"..com'on..a lot of guys do that..maybe some ants bit him and just relieving the itch..LOLOLOL!

well..whatever, boys will be boys and it also doesn't mean by hanging out late at night, smoking and having some cans of red bull means they're looking or going to have sex..that's so lame.

Anonymous said...

Since when has HJ ever hidden his bad boy side? He loves to drink, party and hang out, he ran away from home, got into fights.. he admitted all these himself.. so how is that 'pretending to be all innocent'??

And seriously, can't he party if he wants to? If he can't be himself in Korea, surely he can fly overseas to have fun with his frens! And for those who say the gals are half-naked, I would like to see what you wear clubbing and at parties.. one of the gals is even wearing a sleeved dress puhlease... and do they even look romantically involved from the video? Gee guys can't go clubbing with gal frens?!?!

And I am a Joongboer myself cos I love the two of them on WGM, but I am not so deluded to think that they are a real couple, it is just a reality program!

No matter what I will still love the two of them, together and indivually, together because they brought much laughter and joy, and individually because they both are great pple!

WHAT said...

Leader has the right to fly overseas to chill out with his frens if he wants to! Esp since in Korea he will certainly get mobbed by fans.. It is ridiculous to say that because of that he is not being honest!

Anonymous said...

i guess people forget the main rule of becoming celebrity, esp CELEBRITY IN ASIA...
if hes an American, its a different stories,,the more he makes problem and the more women he do, the image that they got is Manly and cool (Collin Farrel)..thats not the case in ASIA, i believe those people whose said its no biggie prolly not ASIAN, asian but live in different country with different culture or doesnt understand how the Korean Entertainment industry works..
theres a BIG MAJOR different, and im sure before they debut, the company and even themselves know that what they sold is THEIR IMAGE..
what i found interesting is, the "fans" that are angry with those two, majorly not a TS, but a JoongBoer or Joongboer who become TS..
Joongboer who see HJ as HB man, therefore he can not be seeing with other women, whether in drama or in real life..the real TS more concern wit YS, bcos YS smoking habits can damage his voice,,
why they not mad at HB, bcoz mostly JoongBoer is women, women tend to protect each other or destroy each other, bcoz of the honesty that HB portray as part of her image, its easier to defend her and go sided to her..
end the end of the day, the fact is we dont know these two (HB and HJ), they maybe seems close to us, bcoz we watch their shows, read their bio and follow their career, but the reality is they NOT..
we dont know the REAL them, what personality the have, what kind of life the have..
its okay to be a fans of Idol, artist, singer or etc,,
but dont let that fandom goes trough you..
dont let it posses you..
keep ur mind in reality and think clearly and wisely..
and BE RATIONAL..

Anonymous said...

There's no big deal if they goes there for vacation, no big deal at all, just do whatever normal regular guys does. It is a big deal if he says that he is going vacation with his elementary friends and get on the cab with two girls after clubbing at 1:30AM. It is a big deal when people lies.

Anonymous said...

oh no please stop saying this n that,the only truth is we love both hj n hb,what the hell with that news
Honestly even theyre couple or not,i still feel sad,but life must go on,for u guys that still choose to believe,u have my appreciation,but for me im enough with joongbo
Dont forget to support hb on her comeback

Anonymous said...

Elementary school frens can't go clubbing together at 1.30am?????

Anonymous said...

Oh well, as the saying goes.. U can't please everybody. And yeah I remembered something abt HJ mentioning that the media is his enemies. Now I truly understand what he meant by that. Poor him and YS also the 2 girls. But anyweiz, with that news we will all know who their true fans and supporters are. U can actually distinguish the REAL FANS/SUPPORTERS from the PRETENDING FANS/SUPPORTERS from this incident.

Anonymous said...

yes, like many other people said, even hb said for people to get out of the wgm world!! maybe she said that because she wants herself and hj to live their own lives and for people like you (the crazy, delusional, obsessed fans) to stop interfering or keep relating them back to each other. who knows if they are secretly dating or if they are even staying in contact. last time i saw in an interview, hj said he lost hb's number so he can't contact her anymore. i love wgm with hb and hj myself but sometimes you just gotta snap back into reality and admit that it's all a pretense and move on with your lives. they have, so why can't you guys?

i do believe that they probably developed a great relationship/friendship from the show. for those of you who are ridiculously and irrationally bashing hj, you guys realllllllly do not know who he is (and are just pathetically calling yourself a fan)

hj is the type of person that when he makes friends, he cherishes his relationships with them unconditionally. for example, like his BOF castmates. he's supportive of them no matter what, even takes time out of his busy schedule to make time for their fanmeets or to support them in whatever endeavors they're pursuing. they even came to support him in his concerts. and he said he still keeps in contact with his ex a couple times a year. furthemore, he's best friends with some dbsk and bb members and they go out drinking from time to time and were even caught together several times in pictures. he's even admitted that he's great friends with gummy (who is a woman by the way) and even goes out drinking with her. plus there was even a scandal about her and hj in japan...they were seen hanging out and fans thought they were dating (just like how people stupidly interpreted this scandal). so how come you guys aren't bashing her then?? so with that being said, i believe that hj won't just dismissed hb easily like that from his life. maybe they're dating, or maybe they're not dating, but maybe they still keep in touch from time to time for moral support, etc. so please respect them and leave them alone. they're happy, they're pursuing their careers and we should be happy for them.

furthermore, stop bashing hj for being human. hj is definitely a most honest person when it comes to himself. if u guys are TRUE fans of joongbo and claim to know him so well as to decipher his character, you should know that he's quite blunt to the point that people think him rude. furthermore he's not afraid of "protecting his image". he's very honest with the image he is projecting to his fans and that's why many people love him. even ajumma fans love him (go watch on youtube)!!!

-and for the idiot above who said "it's a big deal to get into a cab with two girls at 1:30 and that he's lying)
----HELLO!!! he is in a different country with no cars! what do u want them to do? WALK BACK to their hotel?? what kind of idiot are you? let's see you walk miles back to your place after a late night out in a different country. then you can come on here and say YES! they should have walked back.

ha! so stop the assumptions to make yourselves feel better because reality is settling upon you guys that maybe, maybe this joongbo world is for entertainment purposes only.

Anonymous said...

agree agree agree..i totally agree!!!

Anonymous said...

OMFG..so u all think that HJ is not honest? we all know that he loves to party, drink and yes he does smoke too. he admitted that a lot of times already..so what's the big fuss with him having red bull? he loves red bull. and so what if he's partying or going out around 1:30 in the morning? don't u know? party starts at 12 MIDNIGHT? geeze!

and cant they party with friends that are girls? do they only have to hang out with guys? com'on now..
and what's with HJ not attending HB's bday? does HB ever attended HJ's bday? no right? so what's with that?

and explaining why it happened on HB's birthday..let's just say..coincidence? geeze people..they dont control what's going on around them so before saying anything harsh, try being a lil bit open minded, ok?

lastly, why do they have to lie? they already said their part..it's just that SOME PEOPLE wer to lazy to believe that. they just stick to what that Bitchy paparazzi commentator said and they no longer accept any explanations. oh well..u really can't please everybody.

Anonymous said...

gosh u "joongbo" fans are scary. take a breather. it's not a life and death situation.

Anonymous said...

wow reading the comment is more fun than the actual reports..
and yes I AGREE, JoongBoer is SCARY..
dont mess with them, or you'll in trouble..

Anonymous said...

whatever
look like TS is really back up their leader.. well u guys know the "truth" right..
and for those who said JoongBoer is really scary.. well they just really sad because i think this vid prove that hj n hb maybe not together.. for me it is okay for them to be sad and say it to people.

Anonymous said...

How does hanging out with two girls mean that he is attached? People of the opposite sex can go out together and club you know.. unless we are still in the stone age..

Anonymous said...

now some people said that joongboers scary?????? Oh god..........

Anonymous said...

TS is in full force to support their leader all the way, very scary.

Anonymous said...

Of course TS is in support all the way.. we aren't that disloyal to turn our backs on the boys based on one video that doesn't even show anything.. gals out with guys is normal the last time i checked

Anonymous said...

^but how come when HJ pair with HB on WGM, which is only a SHOW and its officially WORK, u guys mad like crazy, cursing, hating and sending death thread to HB??
but when its in ur face, they hanging around till dawn with cigarettes and anonymous girls, god and taxi driver only know who the hell are they..
u find it NORMAL??
may i know ur reason??

Anonymous said...

whats wrong with feeling sad n disapointed???dont bad mouthing about joongboers in your effort to support your idol all the way,TS....
We,joongboers feel so close each others becoz of joongbo's love during wgm,n that love came from all over the world......so please dont change this blog into some heated n rude debate forum.....give us,joongboers some time for being sad,n maybe tomorrow we will get over it,like nothing happens.....we arent that scary or bad as you think....so peace everyone

To the World said...

After I've read all comments. I'm scared of TS. Haha They r so protective of their idols and don't really understand how sad Joongboers felt. I think its just an emotional moment which made some of them blame what HJ did here. It feels like u finished reading a romantic novel or movie to find out that the leading characters weren't not happily together at the end as u expected.

Plz dont be mean to them. At least I believe they really like and support both HW and HB.U know ppl say how much u love someone, how much u can get disappointed of that person.

Me,as a joonboer, gotta admit that I have no mood to watch clips of joongbo or WGM right now. ( enjoying watching youtube clips of Hwangbo and her popularity to guys in other TV programs instead. even more fun as well as WGM!! ) Anyway, I still have HJ's photos as the wallpaper on my laptop haha

Anonymous said...

but how come when HJ pair with HB on WGM, which is only a SHOW and its officially WORK, u guys mad like crazy, cursing, hating and sending death thread to HB??
but when its in ur face, they hanging around till dawn with cigarettes and anonymous girls, god and taxi driver only know who the hell are they..
u find it NORMAL??
may i know ur reason??


-nice!! now no TS can answer that huh??
:P

Anonymous said...

Many Joongboers are fucking scary indeed. Due to HJ's popularity comparing to the exposure HB has gotten, they are upset with HJ and ready with a gun aiming at him whenever he slips. Hating on him for having so many endorsements, fansites, and others. If you are meant to be a true star, no one can stop you. So yalls need to stop hating on the HJ for achieving success. He got it through sweat and hard work. ANd that's the damn truth that no one can deny. I don't know how popular HB is with the media and the people now. I'm sure if she continues to work hard, she will too become bigger. Other than that, don't hate on HJ just because she doesn't get the same exposure as he does. I also have noticed that many HB's fans are very rude in this sites and other sites too. All I know is that she's gonna get even more antis cuz of the nasty things yalls said about other idols, singers...
HJ I heart you
HB good luck with your new album

Anonymous said...

THEN I GUESS MANY PEOPLE WILL DISSAPOINTED TO HWANGBO WHEN SHE MARRY THE OTHER GUY (NOT HYUNJOONG)!! SHE BETRAYED HYUNJOONG FIRST! JUST LOOK AT SHINAE AND HYUNGDON!!
PLEASE GET UP FOR YOUR DREAM!! YOU ARE TOO MUCH!! HWANGBO AND HYUNJOONG JUST PRETEND TO MAKE A BELIEVE COUPLE!! NEVER JUDGED HYUNJOONG!!! IT'S ONLY FOR SHOW!! AND MANY PEOPLE STILL LOVE HYUNJOONG AND SS501,IT'S WILL BE SO FINE IF YOU WANT HATE SS501!! THEY DOESN'T NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU!! STUPID!

Anonymous said...

the reason is because WE (TRIPLE S) LOVE THEM!! it's so normal if we jealous and it's so normal if we support our IDOL!
Smoking is normal for A 23 YEARS OLD BOYS!! They never get a time to play, so when SS501 get it they will use them to play hard! they are not GOD, they can make A MISTAKE! A SMOKING AND HANGING OUT WITH GIRL ARE NORMAL. He just defenitly a "REAL MAN"

Anonymous said...

Joongboers must be CRAZY! they just hope that HYUNJOONG and Hwangbo will be a Couple. But it's so obvious that THEY AREN'T LOVE EACH OTHER. And then when hyunjoong play with another girl, joongboers just mad like crazy! YOU ARE SO SELFISH!
JOONGBO IS ALREADY GONE A LONG TIME AGO!! WHEN WE GOT MARRIED FINISHED!

Anonymous said...

wow my TS friends,u sure know how 2 say some rude comments,,,,,joongboers just ignore them,lets wish all the best 4 both hj n hb,as individual n as entertainer

Anonymous said...

i agree with you, people just need to wake up from your dream. Joongbo just a reality show. it's good hyunjoong got a scandal like this. so Joongboers can get up from your dreams!

Anonymous said...

Oow okay, when what he do on WGM is cooking, playing games and pretending to a MAKE BELIEVE show, u guys feel jeaolus??
BUT when they hanging around with 2 hook* ups I mean with their "elementary friends", smoking, and extra somthin2, which is REALY HAPPENING..
Than they are a REAL MEN?!
Humm,,very toughtful reason..

Anonymous said...

yes we are. but just for a moment. because we know he just prentending in wgm, and please don't judge HE because of 3 photos and 51 second video. if you never make a mistake them i will be please if you said like that. HE IS A HUMAN!! HE NEEDS SOME FUN!

Anonymous said...

yes we are. but just for a moment. because we know he just prentending in wgm, and please don't judge HE because of 3 photos and 51 second video. if you never make a mistake them i will be please if you said like that. HE IS A HUMAN!! HE NEEDS SOME FUN!

Anonymous said...

TS IS 100% CRAZY.
DON'T SAY RUDE THING ABOUT JONGBOER.
U MUST ADMIT THAT IF NOT WGM N HWANGBO YOUR DEAREST LEADER NOT GOING TO BE CHOSEN IN BOF THAT HELP SS501 TO POPULAR..

Anonymous said...

really???
how about hwangbo?? she even not popular in korea and japan, but because Hyunjoong now she got more fans in WGM!

Anonymous said...

wow, i think hyunjoong and youngsaeng not that stupid to come to a country with a crazy paparazi. with no hat or glasses and walk casually like that. i think it's only a scandal that they made up for prepared their asia tour.

Anonymous said...

HAHA...HB fans stop with your weak argument about how HJ is nothing if wasn't for HB. LOL...I know if HJ is paired up with someone else, it will still work due to his personality. But HB will get shit without HJ because what hooked many people in is his hirlarious comments and his pretty face. Many, noonas, watched because they want to be in HB's position of having a funny, cute, and successful younger guy. Lets face it, not alot of guys have the kinda of fresh personality HJ does. But HB, she's cool but she's not all that. They both benefited from the show PERIOD! But to me HB has always been on the B list, so saying something like HJ owes it to her for his success..PLEASE! Thats full of bullshit!

Anonymous said...

4MY ALL DEAREST JOONGBOERS,DONT LET TS HAPPY THAT THEY HAVE SUCCEDED PLAYING WITH YOUR EMOTION,DONT GET INTO THEIR TRAP!!!
NOW THEY START TO SAY SOME RUDE THINGS ABOUT HWANG BO.....OMG
BOTH HJ N HB SURE GOT BENEFIT FROM WGM,N I THINK ITS EQUALLY.....SO STOP TALKING NONSENSE......JOONGBOERS JUST IGNORE THEM!!!ITS THE END 4 JOONGBO,BUT NOT 4 THOSE WHO LOVES THEM AS HJ N HB PERSONALLy

Anonymous said...

WGM was a great show, and a show it was.the both of them gained popularity from wgm and are grateful to the fans. It's their lives so they have the right to do whatever they want. we as true fans should continue to support them individually. It's a good thing too,with the news out,now is better than never. I hate to say this but the two of them have very different personalities and group of friends. hwang bo deleting the link to rebby's cy, my guess is that she was a bit angry that he stole the limelight of her comeback, nothing personal,knowing that he's having fun ,i bet she feels happy for him too.after all the hardwork, everyone deserves a break right?

Anonymous said...

It seems most of the fans here are Hwangbo fans disguising themselves as Joongoboers ..shame on you people for blaming Hyun Joong for running his own personal life.

Even if I enjoyed WGM I am starting to hate Hwangbo after reading all those blah from her fans!

Anonymous said...

me too, they really hate hyunjoong for nothing! because of he hangout with another girl? hyunjoong is not hwangbo boyfriend, okay!

Anonymous said...

Don't make Hyun Jong feel eternally grateful for WGM because of Hwangbo ..he has been successful in his short period in this business compared to Hwangbo who had been a decade already.

About being grateful, Hwangbo should be more grateful for being paired with Hyung Joong. She would not get this much attention if she has not been paired with Hyun Joong.

I enjoyed watching them in WGM but if you noticed, Hwangbo had more scenes there that were not flattering and made her very very very OLD!

Anonymous said...

I am not a TS and used to be called Joongboer but I am starting to hate that now because I am not proud to be part of the group that is composed of narrow-minded Hwangbo fans that keep on bashing Hyun Joong for a very short video clip that is not even scandalous or romantic like.

Get a life Hwangbo fans!

Anonymous said...

HJ fighting! I like you as KHJ best, not as shilang, not as Jihoo. I party too, club hopping from 10-2am with my guys and gals in high heels and pretty dresses, then hit up the restaurant nearby for quick bites, then head home for some ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZss..then wakeup n put professional outfit backon. And it's another day. We should party together sometimes kekekeke
n toasting to life, friend, fammily and music with shots n redbulls and sake bomb haha.
What's the big damn deal? Yalls jealous cuz those two cute girls weren't you?
YS, smoking is bad....for your health but it doesn't mean that you're a bad person. Anyways, when you get lung cancer, you have only yourself to blame.

Anonymous said...

Even without Hwangbo, Hyn Joong had already been tapped to join WGM. He was supposed to be paired first with Solbi but because he was busy he joined a month later and got paired with Hwangbo. Without Hwangbo, he would still be joining WGM and he would still capture the viewers' interest.

Hwangbo can only do normal stuff around the house but it is no match to Hyun Joong's wit and interesting personality. So Hyun Joong will be grateful to WGM as a show not to being paired with Hwangbo.

Anonymous said...

Don't call yourself Joongboers because you are not. You only love Hwangbo and jealous of Hyun Joong. See, one innocent video and you started dropping him like a hot potato.

Just be true and call yourselves as fanatic Hwangbo fans.

Anonymous said...

it's so funny to see how joongboers bashing hyunjoong for nothing! if you want to compared the benefit that hyunjoong and hwangbo get then hwangbo definitly got more!!

Anonymous said...

hwangbo fans must be crazy! they always hope that Hyunjoong and Hwangbo will be a Couple. But it's so obvious that THEY AREN'T LOVE EACH OTHER. And then when hyunjoong play with another girl, joongboers just mad like crazy!and bashing hyunjoong! YOU ARE SO SELFISH!

Anonymous said...

Joongboers are not Hyun Joong supporters. They are a group of Hwangbo fanatic fans. They hate to see Hyun Joong to get close to other girls except Hwangbo. They cannot accept the fact that Hyun Joong has closed the Hwangbo chapter in his life with the last filming of WGM. Their appearing together in the Awards night in December was simply an epilogue.

At least now they have shown their true color. Joongboer means anti-KHJ!

Anonymous said...

Joongboers do not love Hyun Joong. That's the fact. Stop using that term and simply call yourself Hye Jung angels. I don't know why you choose the word angels by the way because your mindset is not angel like. You are judgmental and narrow minded.

Anonymous said...

i really dissapointed with JOONGBOERS, i must admit that i am joongboers before. Now they really hate hyunjoong because of hyunjoong hangout with another girl but they always support hwangbo like she never make a mistake. i will hate hwangbo from now on too! because they hate hyunjoong first!

Anonymous said...

i really feel sorry for hyunjoong, he got more antis than fans after wgm. "hwangbo fans" always pushed him to be a couple with hwangbo. it's his freedom to choose his love.
hyunjoong fighting!!

Anonymous said...

I hate Hwangbo too even if I used to call myself as joongboer before. I don't like her angels.

Don't worry Hyun Joong. There are still few joongboers that support you. Don't worry about Hwangboers they don't love you truly before anyway so they are not a loss.

Hyun Joong fighting!

Anonymous said...

"hwangbo fanatic fans" need to get up from your dreams!!! hyunjoong is not hwangbo boyfriend!!that's only make believe show!! please admit that! and please stop bashing hyunjoong like that!!don't judged him because of 51 second video! YOU ARE NOT BETTER THAN HIM!!

Anonymous said...

Joongboers cannot dictate Hyun Joong to love Hwangbo just to please them. Let Hyun Joong lead his own life and date other girls. He is too young to get serious with any girl especially someone way older than him.

Anonymous said...

A TRUE Hwang Bo fans, who's been a fans of her for ages and not just bcoz a make believe show will NEVER bash on HB college and friends,,JINBO was loved too, but when Jun Jin have gf, do we HB FANS bash JJ for leaving HB??
NO WE DON'T.
Those whose named them self as HB fans but constantly write hateful comment and bashing HJ who is one of HB college, is NOT HB fans..
They are JOONGBOERS who claimed them self HB fans when the truth is they loved JOONGBO as couple not as individually,,
There a BIG DIFFERENCE betwen us, a real HB fans with JOONGBOERS..
HB is genuine, honest person who is truth to her religion and do A LOT of charity works..and do you think we makes ourself as her fans without taking any value for what she do,,
And for you who says HB fans get jealous over HJ fame, no we don't, we not love her bcoz she got ton of CF, sold out concert that offer this offer, we love her for who she is..not bcoz how big her fame is and we dont care whether she an B-Lister or C-Lister
Soo for now please STOP draging HB into this chaos..we are good before JoongBo and we WILL be good too after JoongBo..

Anonymous said...

A TRUE Hwang Bo fans, who's been a fans of her for ages and not just bcoz a make believe show will NEVER bash on HB college and friends,,JINBO was loved too, but when Jun Jin have gf, do we HB FANS bash JJ for leaving HB??
NO WE DON'T.
Those whose named them self as HB fans but constantly write hateful comment and bashing HJ who is one of HB college, is NOT HB fans..
They are JOONGBOERS who claimed them self HB fans when the truth is they loved JOONGBO as couple not as individually,,
There a BIG DIFFERENCE betwen us, a real HB fans with JOONGBOERS..
HB is genuine, honest person who is truth to her religion and do A LOT of charity works..and do you think we makes ourself as her fans without taking any value for what she do,,
And for you who says HB fans get jealous over HJ fame, no we don't, we not love her bcoz she got ton of CF, sold out concert that offer this offer, we love her for who she is..not bcoz how big her fame is and we dont care whether she an B-Lister or C-Lister
Soo for now please STOP draging HB into this chaos..we are good before JoongBo and we WILL be good too after JoongBo..

Anonymous said...

I don't care even if Joongboers delete their WGM videos and stop supporting Hyun Joong, just leave him alone and stop saying hurtful things about him. He is not Hwangbo boyfriend. There is no single sighting of them dating after WGM so how can you blame Hyun Joong for spending his vacation elsewhere. Why does he need to care for Hwangbo's birthday? He can send Hwangbo a birthday text message from Hong Kong anyway.

Hwangbo fanatic fans are crazy!

Anonymous said...

Guys and Gals pls calm down.. dun need to get so worked up over a lame video.. the video doesn't even prove anything..

I am a TS and a Joongbo fan, so it is upsetting that one side is insulting HJ and the other is insulting HB.. Both can co-exist.. I love HJ and SS501 for their funny cute selves and I love HB because she is pretty, nice and has a big heart! So please stop insulting the two of them.. imagine how upset they would feel if they know their fans are hurling abuse at each other over some inconsequential video..

Both are wonderful and we need to support both of them whether they are together or not.. that said I wish pple would stop saying that HJ let HB down or something liddat.. they aren't together in the first place so there is no letting down of anyone.. and it is not like HJ is attached or anything.. he is just having fun with frens who happen to be girls..

PEACE!

Anonymous said...

i even grateful for this scandal. we can see the true color of joongboers.
they are so selfish. they just support hwangbo and want to keep hyunjoong for hwangbo. joongboers need to get up!! hyunjoong isn't hwangbo boyfriend! stop bashing hyunjoong! that make me hate hwangbo even more!

Anonymous said...

Why hate HB because of Joongboers?? We should see the fans and the celeb as separate.. HB is a great person, so don't hate her for a small minority of fans..

Anonymous said...

u know, the ugliest truth is..
the OLD Hwang Bo that u guys talking about, has the highest probability with HJ than a million of u TS..
yeah shes ugly and b-lister, but can u achieve what she achieve until now??
and let me see u guys hippo body when u turn 30, ooh guess what u are a hippo who get the body to die for result of starring at computer, ranting how handsome SS501 is and dreaming one day they might acknowledge u and prolly get laid with u..
ckckck,,have it occur to you prolly HJ and HB already do each other, hey hes 23 and she 29, both sexually active, why not??
but, let see, did HJ wanna get laid to u hippo TS??
dun think so..
and if HJ get some with those HK girl, hey they not bad either, do u TS have a face and body close to the HK girls??
ups, dun think so,,

Anonymous said...

then please read those rude comments who bashing hyunjoong!! it's so normal if you angry because of that!

Anonymous said...

I am just rile up with Hwangbo fanatic fans pretending as joongboers for dishing Hyun Joong because of that very short video. If you watch it, there is nothing sleazy about it but their reaction is so melodramatic.

If they stop bashing Hyun Joong, things will be fine. We will be watching!

Anonymous said...

why hate HB?? hate her CRAZY FANS! she didnt do anything..she prolly do more kindness more than u in ur whole life..
hate the so called JoongBoer who so heat up and make big deal of everything..
if only the JoongBoer didnt start this wasting and stupid discussion..
they only make HJ and HB get more antis..
stupid people...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at August 19, 2009 9:40 AM

Why call TS a hippo? Perhaps you are a hippo because it is like your favorite word wakekekeh

I am not even a TS because I don't like the veteran TS resenting Hyun Joong for being more popular now than other members. But that is another issue.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at August 19, 2009 9:44 AM

Some don't really hate Hwangbo. I am one of them because I am voting for her in Mnet. But I am now not in the mood to support her because of her fanatical angels.

Anonymous said...

i love hwangbo before! but after reading those rude comments to hyunjoong because of that short video that make me hate her! i know it's wrong but sorry i can't help it!

Anonymous said...

Great now HB get more antis, just rite in the middle of her comeback....
ARrrrrgghhhhh...what the world becoming too?!!!

Anonymous said...

Ahh guys please calm down.. I think you all are just pissed off due to the comments.. chill.. support both HJ and HB in their comebacks, whether or not their fans are crazy anot..

Anonymous said...

I just wish those fanatical hwangbo fans would simply stop. It is difficult to calm down while reading their unfair bashing of Hyun Joong.

Anonymous said...

Do people become fans because they think they might have a chance with their male or female idol? I don't think so right? I know that some do but majiority don't, at least not me. Personally, out of the whole WGM thing, I became interested in only HJ and his activities. I never fancied him or anything but I thought he has an interesting personality. So I mean commenting st. like oh HB has more chance to be banged by HJ than u TS is seriously embarassing and whoever made that comment needs to get a selfcheck.

Anonymous said...

hwangbo fans needs to stop bashing hyunjoong coz that's only make her "angel" got more antis. i really dissapointed of joongboers

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at August 19, 2009 10:16 AM.

I agree with you. I suppose she is expressing her own thoughts and expect that other fans mirror also her own twisted illusion. But you cannot reason out with that kind of fan. Only a medical professional can help her.

Anonymous said...

i am joongboers and i'm not triple s but i really getting angry after i rode that rude comments! they judge hyunjoong like crazy people, no i'm lazy to support hwangbo anymore, because of her fans!

Anonymous said...

people stop bashing each other,theres no benefit at all,especially for hj n hb.....lets end this all my friend
Maybe the conclusion is.....some people get disapointed of the news,so they start to express their sadness,some in normal ways,n some in a little bit rude way....n hj fan get mad becoz of this comment,n start 2 protect their idol,which is some in normal ways,n some a lil bit rude,n start bashing hb,it made hb fans get made in response.....stop continue this my friend,coz it will never end,and at the end all of us at loss....so forget all of this,n starting a fresh.....peace

Anonymous said...

those hwangbo angels are so inconsiderate that they don't realize that some joongboers truly love hyun joong. bashing hj make us support him more and lose the interest to support hb.

i think they are the same joongboers in another forum that kept on harping that they are more an hb fan than hj and did that in a joongbo thread, jeesh! why don't they simply stay in hb's thread instead of ruining other's mood!

Anonymous said...

dear Hyunnies Ts Angels Jbers :),
I am a Jber and from where I came from we are staying positive
and we don't bash HJ at all. We still believe in him and respect him alot.

so I really don't know who are all here making bad comments about HJ and giving JBer, angels, HB a bad name :) :)

Pls be aware that unlike in other places...here ppl can be "anonymous" so they ALL can be one and the same person try to stir up things for attention :)(anti maybe?)

Most Jbers (where I came from) think that there was nothing special about that clip and that its exagerated by HK media

and we do support KHJ and HB equally and positively and do not judge them based on anything "shallow" like this
we believe in HJ as much as in HB

Maybe this all are done to give HB, JB, or even HJ a bad name
so be united and support both of them...

Anonymous said...

yeah^^, most of the JBers comment were actually:
poor boys what have they done...
they didn't do anything..wrong... except for having a much needed break

if there is anything wrong they would cover their face...or something

We are JBers and we do not jump into conclusions and we do not bash people...

Anonymous said...

i thinks this is event game, before hb jointed to wgm with hj, hj's fan said bad to hb alot but hb's fan didn't said anything to rude to hj. . now some of you in here said hb's fan are bad and inconsider. so fake. seem like hj's fan depense for him so much.

about this video, who care that is his life and private. no comment


i am also joongboer. but i support each other individually. actually i like hb before i know hj.

i thinhk hj's fan need to chill out a little.

Anonymous said...

it would not be issue if hb fan did not bash hj so hb fans should chill out ..why drag what happened in the past?

Anonymous said...

if there is no past then there is no present. duh.

Anonymous said...

what the past has something to do with the current issue?

is that a license to bash hj now?

Anonymous said...

going find out by yourself.

Anonymous said...

Some Joongboers made a really good points. Some of these people keep on saying I like HB more or what not; then why don't you just comment on her and stop dragging HJ down just to get attention. I hardly see people post stuffs on HB thread, but keep coming to the Joongbo thread and made comments about how unfairly HJ treated her or she's too good for him or he's bad, dishonest, and potray as someone that he's not. I mean, if you don't like him, Just don't bother attack him and focusing on supporting HB instead!

Anonymous said...

Good point!

Focus on HB and leave HJ alone. Her supporters are happy with HB right? So those supporters should spend happy time in HB's own thread.

Just don't bash HJ!

Anonymous said...

what HB fans write is nothing compare what HJ fans write about her,,
HB fans may said somthin rude, but they never sending a DEATH THREAD and black mailing him??
its a fair game, both team bash each other and both team are equally rude and unthoughtful...

Anonymous said...

WOW, i guess this so called 'scandal' really shown a true color of HJ fans, HB fans and JoongBoer...
like anon says above..
the three team is both equally RUDE and UNTHOUGHTFUL..

Anonymous said...

The rude ones are only a small minority from each fanclub.. so please don't generalize.. and ya pple let's all be civil in this comment thread from now on k... can express your disappointment or sadness whatever, but don't go so low as to start insulting HB or HJ..

Anonymous said...

yup i'm agree!dont generalize it,so just stay calm & cool,its free to express your sadness but dont start bashing HB & HJ again,they are just normal people,& good person indeed

Anonymous said...

Gosh I feel bad for HJ! I mean the incident isn't even related to Hwangbo but her fans are coming here and there to bash him. I mean he didn't do anything to her. If anything Hwangbo's fans should thanks Hyun Joong for bringing her a lot more attention n exposure to her career because he did bring the "spice" to the show when they were on.
I know from the Hyun Joong's thread, everyone is very very respectful. They don't bash people but they focus on HJ, his activities, and his success as well as not so successful ones. They don't go around and hating on Hwangbo, Sondambi, Hyori, or GHS, or whichever females that he has been coupled/costared with.
I don't know fans in Korea but I knows international fans from HJ's Soompi thread; especially the regulars are only there to support him, his partners, costars and his work. They seriously have not made comments that are hateful to HB or anyone else. So you guys can stop hating on HJ and his fans. Focus own your own idol and don't drag other people down.

Anonymous said...

^u are blind if u think HJ fans not bashing every female that work with him, not only HB...
And FYI there's a lot of HJ fans sites, maybe u should check other thread and sites too beside the Soompi one..
Even some TS starting against him for becoming too famous..
Like everyone says its a fair game,, there's two side, u think if one side get insulted ther other side just gonna sit quite in the corner??
Both sides made that 3 side was bashing each other, and its not gonna stop so easily.

Anonymous said...

Clearly HJ is being hated for receiving too much love. awwww man, I hope Hyun Joong and Young Seng had fun with their friends/girlfriends/friendswithbenefits or whatever in Hong Kong. What's the use of being famous n rich if you can't do the things you want to do and being fearful of being judged. Wish SS501 the best with the rest of their Asia Tour and the 2nd album. I need to start saving up hiii

Anonymous said...

sorry, just disappointed with those two. bye HJ, YS, SS501, nice to know you guys. good luck,

Anonymous said...

its ok, they won't miss u anyway. you weren't probably even a fan.

Anonymous said...

oh whatever,i'm not that into Hj and Hb anyway,but honestly i like their pairing,but if they arent a couple,ahhh sooo what?they can find their own true love n find happiness,its none of our business,so just shut up and stop commenting other people thought

Anonymous said...

oh whatever,i'm not that into Hj and Hb anyway,but honestly i like their pairing,but if they arent a couple,ahhh sooo what?they can find their own true love n find happiness,its none of our business,so just shut up and stop commenting other people thought

Anonymous said...

i would have felt much better if there were odd and even numbers when seeing them out...like if there were three girls plus hj and ys...or three guys plus those two b*tches...but it was two and two...and it looked like a getaway vacation for HJ and YS and their girlfriends. ugh...didnt know HJ liked the skinny flat chested, chicken legs/arms kinda girl...i thought he'd like someone a little more womanly like hwangbo.

Anonymous said...

dude you are in a forum and posting your thoughts publicly make it subject for comment hahaha

love you hyun joong ...don't mind the antis they are simply mad coz you didn't date them instead lol

Anonymous said...

LOL skinny flat chested, chicken legged girls can be attractive too...hahaha. You cracked me up.
Anyways, he needs to or he should? no he ain't have to follow what yalls think what he ought to do.
I need to see double HJs, YS, KJ,and JM on some sort of shows soon. Like one of those TYFWMU...gosh good old fun time!

Anonymous said...

lol. u know what, i think antis are just mad bc...they probably see themselves in hwangbo's place, as if they're the ones dating shillang,
so seeing shillang with those girls, they feel like shillang is cheating on them. haha!

ah, i love hb, i love hj, i love SS501. i will continue being crazy about them no matter what.

Anonymous said...

tsk, tsk , tsk......it's hot in here ...

HJ look at this mess ...

Anonymous said...

still love hyunjoong!! no matter what!

Anonymous said...

gee.what is happening to the JoongBO world? AFAIK, Joongboers was formed due to their love to HJ & HB as a couple.Though no direct confirmation from the 2 yet you all chose to believe.It is the J'bers choice,nobody esp not HJ & HB led you to believe.Just be happy that we discover 2 great people we can spazz, CSI'd,laugh,cry,& fell in love coz they are too good for each other. Chill out.If you're boiling with frustation, stay out from the computer for a while.We don't want to wake the netizens/antis coz the next thing we'll know HB will be at the receiving end of much vengeance.Remember some of the Idol fans are terribly possesive, scary as hell if provoke.You might not be affected but what about HB?When she has nothing to do with this.

Anonymous said...

hwangbo fans so narrow minded!! what a shame fans!! they really scary, i hate them to judge hyunjoong like that! they always said that triple s is scary or whatever, but they must check their first

Anonymous said...

just seen the pics of the 2 guys at the hongkong airport. No sign of their "so called 8 elementary school friends". Tsk tsk DSP, you're lying through your nose about this! I'm sure their diehard fans will give some fantastic excuse for this too! hahaha! Love the way they tell white lies with their so cute smiles. And love the way their fans defend them despite their lies! Kakaka.

Anonymous said...

hwangbo angels should watch their words because it is not only hwangbo who is love by many

i used to like hwangbo but i am starting to resent her because of her oldies fanatics arghhh!

Anonymous said...

how can you say hj and ys are lying? they have not given any interview yet!

Anonymous said...

Love the way they tell white lies with their so cute smiles???? what do you mean?? so do you mean ss501 have a fake personality?? why you so angry with ss501?? hyunjoong IS NOT HWANGBO BOYFRIEND. IT'S HIS FREEDOM!! JUST SUPPORT THEM BOTH BUT NOT AS A COUPLE. but really!! i'm just lazy to like hwangbo, because her narrow minded fans

Anonymous said...

please watch your words hwangbo fans!! we really can't accept if you said that ss501 is a lier, who are you so can said something like that so freely!! watch your words!

Anonymous said...

for how long do you want to keep on bashing hj for not loving your hb? accept it that hj wants to hang out with other girls not with your saint hb!

hj has not release any statement so you have no basis for saying he is lying.

hb fans are crazy antis!

Anonymous said...

Check out the Baidu.com, pictures of HJ and Ys were leaving HongKong airport, it is not as DSP announce with a group of 8. Just HJ and YS alone. Hello!!!

Anonymous said...

i don't know why hwangbo fans feel angry and hate hyunjoong so much. HJ and HB are not a couple. Hyunjoong has a freedom to play with any girls that he wants.
why you told us that hyunjoong and youngsaeng are lying!
that's dsp, their company who released that statement!

Anonymous said...

i doesn't understand korean language, please show me the picture? what happened? hyunjoong and youngsaeng are in hongkong from few days a go. and comeback to korea today in early morning. what's wrong with it? why they're lying? PLEASE ANSWER ME!

Anonymous said...

Hi TS,please remember not to scream HJL and HYS's names too loudly at their fanmeetings and concerts. Keep your hands to yourselves during photoshoots with them. Please remember that they have 'girlfriends' and their 'girlfriends' are watching. They might get jealous!

Anonymous said...

how childish you are!! what a shame fans! did you think triple s will be angry because of your shame words?? sorry you wrong!

Anonymous said...

aww!! please don't disguising yourself hwangbo fans! we TS will not angry, we always support and hope the best for SS501. but SS501can choose what they wanna do. we know we only "fans"

Anonymous said...

to that person who are asking why HJ & YS were only seen arriving at the airport...it's not hard to analyze really.If the antis & the confused are already harboring so much hatred to HJ in just 50 sec vid, how much more if they were seen arriving with the involved girls? have you ever think of these possibilities: Maybe
1.to protect the girls identities from rabid fans & antis. 2. not to instigate the issues more 3. not to get the attention of media 4. avoid to create another nonsense rumor...
really HJ & YS are the REAL victims of this nonsensical issue.

Anonymous said...

OMG lets just move on! It's his personal business! If he said that he's with his friends, then I'll take it as that lies and all. It's his personal business and there's no law saying that you have to tell your fans and anti fans where you are goin, who you are hanging with, who are you banging or such. If one day he decides to announce who's his girlfriend is or wife is; I'm going to be happy for him and her whoever she might be. So um stop whining about the boys telling white lies or black lies

Anonymous said...

that anti-KHJ is on hate campaign and getting frustrated why he could not convince others to hate KHJ also . . . go back to your beloved hwangbo's camp

crazy weirdo amf!

Anonymous said...

FYI, WGM was last yr..it ended last yr. and it's been like what? 8-9 months since it ended already.

so it means, a lot of things had changed already. but it doesn't mean that what he was on WGM is pretentious. stop assuming things people.

and yeah, HB and HJ WERE NEVER TOGETHER!!!!! they weren't real couples..they wer just REEL couples! WGM is a REALITY SHOW for cris sakes! in other terms..they wer like "LOVE TEAMS"..just like other celebs when paired with another for some sitcoms or whatever. so please..WAKE UP!!

and about the airport thingy..maybe the other 6 people checked-in ahead of them, so they wer left at the check-in area. WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE..DO WE EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE? so y are u accusing them of this and that? The other 6 people who are not captured in the picture doesn't mean they're not with them.

lastly about the DSP damage control, it is in control..it's just that SOME PEOPLE TEND TO NOT ACCEPT THEIR EXPLANATIONS. in other words..LAZY LISTENERS. wait till HJ and YS say about something, just be patient..and when they do speak up and turns out that what DSP said is true..EAT UR HEART OUT..Ex-HJ fans! and if its not..then REJOICE all u want..there will still be lots of HJ fans out there. GOOD OR BAD..doesn't matter..that's what fans are for..accept it. HE'S ONLY HUMAN!!

APRIL

Anonymous said...

to all joongboers wake up, it's reality check. it's HJ way of saying we're not into each other. be greatful to HJ for showing you the truth. he hasn't even given any indication that they're dating. with that 51 sec vid, he's sending you a message , go figure OK! GEEEEEZZZZZ!

Anonymous said...

People of all nations.... Geezzz....stop bashing each other. It's just an artcile. We admit that both of them are separate individuals. We did love them as a couple in WGM. But we have to realize that they are building their career separately. Can we just PLEASE stop hurting each other ego. SUPPORT HJ AND SUPPORT HWANGBO. All of you are creating a scene that it should be not happening. Bygones to bygones......PEACE.....UNITY...LOVE......fRIENDSHIP..... lOVE TS AND JOONGBOERS....

Anonymous said...

I'm soo hoping that this so scandal is TRUE, that HJ is really go vacay with his gf to HK..
So that those crazy delusional JoongBoers could stop connecting HJ to HB..
HJ needs to be other women better, why do he need to be with OLD women with draguish face and B-Lister celebrity not to mention oh so pretty voice, he need to be with YOUNG, real beauty women face and A-Lister celebrity!
He's an Hallyu Star rite now, so he need to be with someone his class..
Geezz, face it HB fans, she maybe famous in Int forum, but no one recognize her in K-entertaiment....
Even Shin Bong Shun more famous than her!

Anonymous said...

ahhh please, don't bash hb. i came to know of hj first and grew to love him and his personality....knowing him lead me to watch WGM and i started to love hb as well. i love them both in wgm together but i also cherish them both as individuals. so please respect each artist and don't hate one because you like the other more.

Anonymous said...

If HB as a 30 year-old woman is "OLD " , what do you call your mothers then , or aunts , who are older than her , ANCIENT ???? grow up kid !!!
and you can have your HJ, just stop bashing HB ...she didn'T do anything wrong to you and the others ...

Anonymous said...

hb will get more antis when hb fans keep on bashing hj ..

so joongboer fake or real, please stop bashing hj because you will only hurt hb more ..you keep on saying you guys love hb and don't care about hj anymore because of that not-so-remarkable vid but the way you go on and on about it make others lose interest to hb and become more protective of hj

that's idol power peepz, sad for you but true!

Anonymous said...

OH HWANGBO FANS please face the truth! Hyunjoong isn't hwangbo boyfriend. please stop bashing hyunjoong because he's with another girl on hwangbo birthday. hyunjoong never give indication that they're dating. Please accept it!! if you want to keep bashing him then do it, i'm sure hwangbo WILL GET MORE ANTIS because of that!

Anonymous said...

i think this arguing will be stop if hb fans stop bashing hj. that's make people lost interest in hwangbo, for the example is me. i like hwangbo in wgm because she can laughing easly and nice but she's not my reason for watching it. my reason is hyunjoong. his 4d,blunt personality, and cute face. after wgm end, i support them individually, i still love them but not as a coupl. but now i really lost interest in hwangbo, because hwangbo fans so rude to hyunjoong. that's make me pity him!

Anonymous said...

Yeah their WGM days wer so looong over. So pls wake up people. They have their own lives and that doesn't include them being together. Just stop bashing HJ coz u'll just get more antis for HB.

Anonymous said...

Give the guys some slack will yah!
They're human beings too not perfect saints. Let's just appreciate the entertainment they're bringing to our daily lives.
These juicy stuff just makes them more interesting and colorful right :-)
I know I will still keep on loving them even though I don't understand korean LOL.
SS501 for life! Oh yes I like Hwangbo too, she's cool!

Anonymous said...

ss501 fighting!! please don't be sad with your antis comment. they even didn't look at their self before they judges you. they really judged you because of nothing! we will always support you and we will be againts anyone who hurt you!

Anonymous said...

to read those comments make me sick!! hwangbo fans really make me sick! they really narrow minded and rude! i just became angry with hwangbo now. i think smoking and hangout with fans in late night it's so normal for 23 years old boys. even me, 18 years old girl already drinking and smoking. that's so normal. further more, they never get time to break. and yes, we don't know what really happened in there, but don't judge them because of 51second video!

Anonymous said...

Hey gals, please don't hate HB because of irrational behavior of her fans.

I know I started not to like HB when her fans kept on bashing HJ. On second thought, it is not the fault of HB so let's not unfairly blame HB.

Since the other camp is now quiet, I will learn to like HB again ^_^

Love you HJ!

Anonymous said...

someone from soompi wrote that

"HwangBo updated the song in her cyworld list...
One of them Young Saeng & Hyun Joong's solo"

soo, why would she just put two of their songs on there? maybe it's her discreet way of supporting them?? something to think about...
=D

Anonymous said...

" i guess, HWANG BO is supportive of the two .... she knows the issue ... SHE UNDERSTANDS them ... She's behind them!
putting the songs of HYUN JOONG & YOUNG SAENG in her music list along with of her own songs ...
that's a CLEAR Statement ... that SHE CARES!!! "

Anonymous said...

fishy.hwangbo uploaded HJ & YS songs?just a thought.HB is so scared to lose J'boers fans.maybe she's trying to pacify them?but bottom line i think some of the TS and KHJ fans won't be happy with this.POV in this matter she's riding so much this J'boers craze.if she doesn't want to get drag in ths HK rumor,the right thing to do is avoid getting involved right?well she's in the middle of her comeback and she has to do what she has to do.clever.

Anonymous said...

malicious minded people would always think maliciously ..don't mirror your trash thoughts with HB

she is a good person. i know i was a bit harsh with her fans previously for bashing HJ but i am aware that is is kind and a good person.

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