Saturday, January 16, 2010

Code Name: Marie Cat.

Hello! I'm BlurryFella87. You might have known me from Soompi or my YT Channel but I'm not an active user. Anyway, I hope that I am welcome here as my posts will be more to the "spazzing" side rather news or articles that are legit. I could be wrong as it is 100% based on my assumption but hey, that are what spazzes are all about right? :D

Anyway, for my first post, I want to post something from Hwangbo's Cyworld as she just updated her minihompi yesterday. Everyone knows she likes to give us hints through her Cyworld right? (or at least I think so).

This is how her page looks like yesterday,


If you have noticed, she inserted a dancing Marie Cat on her Miniroom. Don't you think that the cat seems very familiar?

This!


It's the exact same cat. The icon in her Minihompi even dances in the same way as her aegyo in the episode. I don't think that Hwangbo puts it there just by coincidence or just for fun. She is a very detailed person. She said it herself in the Come To Play; Blood A Type special not very long ago. So I guess, it must have mean something.

I suggest that you guys should go visit her Cyworld to look at it by yourself. You will get what I mean! Click here.

That's it people! Keep on believing! We are at the right track and almost there. Time will prevail! :D

That's all for now. I will be posting in again later so you guys better look out. That's all, bye!

67 comments:

Anonymous said...

I would love to...can't read Korean. Could someone show the way to see her cyworld in english or something. That would be so great.

Anonymous said...

to access HB's page, try holding the key from your keyboard until HB's page comes up. it will usually opens 2 more windows, just hold on the key :D

or try this:
http://minihp.cyworld.com/pims/main/pims_main.asp?tid=25976079

marie cat is still there

Anonymous said...

ek! the name of the key just got removed! its SHIFT. hold on the SHIFT key.

Anonymous said...

u're sharp to have noticed the marie cat! ooh i do hope it's a REAL hint. is the puppy Jins and the boy with the comb KHJ himself? (think of the earlier WGM scenes she shampooed his hair!)

i just watched Joongbo WGM recently and i think they'd make a really interesting couple - complementing each other.

UnTouch@bLe ^guRL said...

tO the wORLD!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Just keep the faith gals...To The World!!

Anonymous said...

Is it even possible ? lol.
I just don't want to get my hopes up for no real reason. ha ha ...
Don't want to get disappointed.

But thanks for the little hope ...
I've watched WGM Joongbo cuts like 10 times repeat from beginning to last episodes now, lol.
Loving them.

I think the only other guy better for HB (than HJ) is only Kim Kyung Rok.
The others that might match HB is Lee Ji Hoon, Lee Jung, or her ideal one, Kang Dong Won, lol.
Micky is okay, but not yunho.
Hmm, too many choices. lol.

Anonymous said...

Just something I've notice...not sure if this was before WGM, however I was watching a Japanese show "GOurM@nd T@bl3" where KHJ was a guest. He cooked two dishes---one of them was samgyetang. As KHJ once said in another show....if he likes a girl, he would start a rumor. Plus, if you remember on WGM, episode 21 part 5, where they were playing with fireworks....they spelled LOVE. Now months later, a song "love like this" comes along where they spell LOVE. Just food for thought. Just putting too much hope I supposed. Thanks by the way to all who gave me hints in trying to see Hwangbo's cyworld. I will try it.

Anonymous said...

The HK thing might just be a coincidence, lol.

Because I just watched the HB Phone interview - with MBLAQ 100113. She was asked if she had been in touch with KHJ, and she answered no, according to the translation.
So I guess they have not been together at all.

I don't think she would lie about it.

Anonymous said...

She probably just likes that cat very much.
Because she was so excited when we wore that cat thing on WGM, she thought it was so cute.
So, it may or may not be a sign/hint of anything.

Anonymous said...

@ the third post above me, I can't understand what you're saying, lol.
What's the rumor ? or what's the link between what he cook & the fireworks or the song ??
can you explain pls ?

Anonymous said...

Just answering to the post above me...lol. should have made myself clear. In WGM ep 20, Lettuce couple met up with the Alshin couple...the episode where they had a pretend fight to test their husbands...well afterwards, they went to the beach and played with fireworks. there was this part where the four of them spell LOVE using the fireworks...just thought it was a wonderful coincidence that months later, ss501 is now spelling LOVE in their new song...that's all. As to the samgyetang, It was on wgm episode 35, where Hwangbo cooked it for him...at the time he was impressed Hwangbo knew how to make it and helped her....so was just wondering if when he guessed at that Japanese show, it was after WGM. Just thought it was a cute incidence on their part. And with regards to the rumor...it was on another show where ss501 was asked what they would do if they liked a girl...KHJ said he would start a rumour that he likes her to let her know or get her interested...or something like that...again, it was just him being himself on the interview....just thought it was too funny...and just you know...wishful thinking on my part. As for Hwangbo...maybe she does just like it and not a sign...just wishing them the best. Fighting!!!

Anonymous said...

@ the poster above me, I have seen all the episodes several times, but just wasn't sure what you were trying to say, lol. Thanks for explaining that.

And I watched the Japanese cooking show thing a couple of weeks ago, it's not straight after WGM. I believe it's very recent, only last month. But when I watched it at that time, I also thought that maybe he learned all the cooking thing from HB during WGM, because he didn't seem to know any cooking before WGM, ha ha.
But who knows, maybe HB especially taught him those 2 special dishes before the Japanese show last month, that's if they're really still together.
Maybe HB told a "white lie" (in the radio interview mentioned above) that she doesn't get in touch with HJ. Hopefully, it's just a "white lie" .. I remember she said in WGM that white lie with good intention is okay right? haha.
But I really just don't want to get disappointed if the whole things turn out to be nothing but our own imagination, argh, I wish they will just come out & confirm it openly & truthfully.

Anonymous said...

to the post above...if its a white lie on HB part, likely for the good of HJ. In WGM, she always kept saying he is young and feels has to protect him. Maybe waiting for him to grow up a little more. He still has to go to the army right. Oh, well...our imagination will keep us content in the hopes they will become a couple. And maybe she doesn't get in touch with him, she didn't say he doesn't get in touch with her. LOL. Always hoping, I know. LOL.

Anonymous said...

To the post above me.
LOL...it just shows its complicated isn't it...LOL.
As far as contracts go, on "go fishery", I think that's what is called...all the members say, their contract with DSP will be done in 6 months...I think. They all sounded like they are doing individual things in the near future...but still intends to be SS501...maybe HJL is waiting for the four to be successful in their own endevours to ensure it is only his life that is affected should he pursue HB. My eternal hope anyways...HJL has more Noonas than donsaeng fans...I would think those Noonas would be more understanding...I would be definitely a Noona who would support them. And those donsaeng fans, by now, they haven't grown up and is now dating. Please...

You are right...HJL should be the one to initiate it, shows her he is a man who can be dependen on.

Can't you marry and have spousal visits in the Korean army...I mean they have it for USA, Canadian prisons for crying out loud...LOL.

HB needs a man who is comfortable with himself and trust only her. I wouldn't want her to be with a jelous, and closedminded type of a guy who would try to squash her beautiful spirit.

So is there any business type guy out there....LOL

Anonymous said...

To the post above me, again, lol, I wonder if we're having a "dialogue" here, ha ha .. But I think it's better to write and to have something to read, rather than not having any comments/news at all when clicking this page in the morning. LOL.

Yes, I'm pretty sure noona(s) are way more understanding. We're actually just wishing both HJ & HB the best, not about ourselves. After all, we're just fans right?
Maybe the problem is that the younger fans are hoping that they can actually marry HJ one day ?? LOL, but girls at young age are often full of fantasies & imaginations.
Being happily married with kids, I just enjoyed watching WGM & BOF & xman as a real fan who is wishing both Joongbo well. I am also hoping that HB can have a happy marriage too; and therefore, it's fine whoever she ended up marrying as long as the guy is faithful, caring, loving for the rest of their lives.
I saw that HJ can be such person while in WGM .. it's just that the timing can be too complicated for them in real life. Besides, I'm not sure if he has "changed" since they quit WGM, whether his feelings for HB had changed, that's what's the most important.
During the world cup ideal thing, I was a bit disappointed, because not only he chose Lee Hyori over HB, but he seemed to really like those girls like UEE, Krystal, CL, Lee Ha Ni, etc. too. It made him look a bit like a playboy, LOL, although there's nothing wrong for a guy his age to like young sexy girls, ha ha ha. Just not sure if he's still the one suitable for HB.

Regarding the army thing, I guess if they're really together, they could just get married first. I'm sure there's visitation, although it may not be convenient, but can't be too bad. Just think about the real armies who go to real wars etc., they too had to go away from home for a little while. HB can be a 100% faithful wife anyways while waiting for him to come back home.

In the end, it all depends on whether or not they're still together now, whether or not their feelings for each others are still the same. Remember when he said "live with the original feelings for years" & HB made it "decades", lol ?

Although HJ is blunt & doesn't seem too caring, etc., I always felt that HJ was really in love with her during WGM. At least, he really considered their marriage real, even when it was fake. He was the most disappointed when HB said "if I get married" while in the farm, right ? Also when he said stuff like, "she should be more conservative (about the clothings), now that she's married". If he considered the marriage merely a fake/contract one, he wouldn't be saying stuff like that, I think.
I wish HB hadn't continued to draw lines during WGM, their marriage could've turned real even then if she didn't keep reminding herself that it's just variety show. LOL. After all, the Gundam couple really dated after WGM. They could too or maybe they did & still do ??

I wonder if it's really possible for SS501 to make it without continuing to be in SS501 in the future ? Will they make it if they go solo ? Maybe they can, but I'm not sure. Maybe they can form their own group (change name) without entering any contract. Is there such a thing though ?

Anonymous said...

To the post above me, again, lol, I wonder if we're having a "dialogue" here, ha ha .. But I think it's better to write and to have something to read, rather than not having any comments/news at all when clicking this page in the morning. LOL.

Yes, I'm pretty sure noona(s) are way more understanding. We're actually just wishing both HJ & HB the best, not about ourselves. After all, we're just fans right?
Maybe the problem is that the younger fans are hoping that they can actually marry HJ one day ?? LOL, but girls at young age are often full of fantasies & imaginations.
Being happily married with kids, I just enjoyed watching WGM & BOF & xman as a real fan who is wishing both Joongbo well. I am also hoping that HB can have a happy marriage too; and therefore, it's fine whoever she ended up marrying as long as the guy is faithful, caring, loving for the rest of their lives.
I saw that HJ can be such person while in WGM .. it's just that the timing can be too complicated for them in real life. Besides, I'm not sure if he has "changed" since they quit WGM, whether his feelings for HB had changed, that's what's the most important.
During the world cup ideal thing, I was a bit disappointed, because not only he chose Lee Hyori over HB, but he seemed to really like those girls like UEE, Krystal, CL, Lee Ha Ni, etc. too. It made him look a bit like a playboy, LOL, although there's nothing wrong for a guy his age to like young sexy girls, ha ha ha. Just not sure if he's still the one suitable for HB.

Regarding the army thing, I guess if they're really together, they could just get married first. I'm sure there's visitation, although it may not be convenient, but can't be too bad. Just think about the real armies who go to real wars etc., they too had to go away from home for a little while. HB can be a 100% faithful wife anyways while waiting for him to come back home.

In the end, it all depends on whether or not they're still together now, whether or not their feelings for each others are still the same. Remember when he said "live with the original feelings for years" & HB made it "decades", lol ?

Although HJ is blunt & doesn't seem too caring, etc., I always felt that HJ was really in love with her during WGM. At least, he really considered their marriage real, even when it was fake. He was the most disappointed when HB said "if I get married" while in the farm, right ? Also when he said stuff like, "she should be more conservative (about the clothings), now that she's married". If he considered the marriage merely a fake/contract one, he wouldn't be saying stuff like that, I think.
I wish HB hadn't continued to draw lines during WGM, their marriage could've turned real even then if she didn't keep reminding herself that it's just variety show. LOL. After all, the Gundam couple really dated after WGM. They could too or maybe they did & still do ??

I wonder if it's really possible for SS501 to make it without continuing to be in SS501 in the future ? Will they make it if they go solo ? Maybe they can, but I'm not sure. Maybe they can form their own group (change name) without entering any contract. Is there such a thing though ?

Anonymous said...

oops, sorry for the double post above, I accidentally hit the button twice, & I just realized the post was so long, LOL, sorry for over-filling up the comment page, ha ha ha ...

I wish we can get the real news soon. They've never been together in any show after the Award thing, which is a weird thing.

Btw, I was always wondering if HB visited him while he's recovering from swine flu in Jeju Island ?!? Hmmm ...

I was wondering why he picked Jeju Island as the place to rest while recovering. Did he miss HB ? It's their honeymoon & second honeymoon spot, LOL.
Would he remember the time when HB tried to trick him into getting a flu shot (but he thought he would never get a flu)?

I think HB makes a really great wife. Whoever marries her will be very very lucky. I hope that she won't marry the wrong guy, that's all.

Anonymous said...

To the post above: LOL!!!

I guess we really are having a dialouge...LOL. As for me, this is actually quite nice to be chatting with someone who feels the same. I too was disappointed with KHL choice...it could have been a cover up too. So I will keep myself elated with that thought...LOL.

As for me, married with kids as well...love watchig WGM over and over...watching for clues...love them so much still. If for awhile, they loved each other...with that, I hope Hwangbo realize she is worth it, She should realize by now that she was able to change someone like HJL. He does look like a player...hope the fame didn't get to him and still the same HJL at the beggining of WGM.

I hope the SS501 becomes successful regardless if they are doing solo activities or not. Hopefully they will remember that together with their fans are stronger are always stronger together.

Sandra88 said...

Triple LOL @ the poster above me, again.
So we are having a dialogue after all, ha ha ..
It's been really nice chatting with you too.

I've finally just signed up, so I don't keep posting as anonymous, lol, since I have been coming here often now. Maybe not too often once school holiday is over for the kids. lol.

Just like you, I've watched Joongbo WGM episodes again & again. I think I can memorize all the scenes & episodes by now, lol. I really love Joongbo. I've never watch anything multiple times like this before, lol.
This only happened with Joongbo WGM, BOF & any xman episodes with Hwangbo in it (most are so so funny & can relieve the daily life stress, ha ha).

Watching the ideal cup thing, I didn't think it's a cover up. I think he was just being blunt as always. He might have chosen Hwangbo if it's not based on looks; if it's an overall score thing.
But the MC insisted that he should only give honest answer based on looks, so I think he had always thought of Hyori as prettier than Hwangbo.

Although he might have been a little bit worried that he might hurt HB's feeling, I think he just could never step into a white lie zone. lol.
It reminds me of when HB got angry with HJL during the first farewell journey. That episode itself had shown that he will always be blunt & honest no matter what.
Of course we (& most if not all Joongboers) were very disappointed.
But I'm more disappointed with his other choices of girls & also at the show's PD. It's unfair to ask him to choose Hyori/Hwangbo in the first round. I think that's stupid. Because there are still so many other bunch of girls that come up later on .. that doesn't even look nicer.
Maybe the person doing the pairing behind the scene was an anti Hwangbo person, I wonder. And we could tell that it was definitely wasn't random (computerized).

Personally, I think Hwangbo is much better looking than Hyori, whether with or without make up.
They are both pretty, sexy and hot; but in totally different ways.
But since Hyori is the way more girly girl type, people just categorize her as prettier while teasing HB as being more manly.

When I compare their pictures, I always think Hwangbo is way more gorgeous. I don't really like the Hyori type; somehow she always reminds me of Mariah Carey, LOL.

Anyways, I read some negative comments (arguments) about HB in a couple of youtube links, several days ago. After reading the comments & checking the source, it seemed that the arguments might have caused by the wrong translation in the source (one of the joongbo sites), that caused some people to think that HB is materialistic. LOL. So Untrue.

I made a comment note in the joongbo site, trying to help fixing the translation as much as I can, hoping that the writer/blogger can probably fix the mistake.
However, it looked like the site owner hasn't been updating since July '09, LOL.

Anonymous said...

Hello Sandra88...You are a brave soul. So I figured I should too, since I'm on this blog more often than not.

I love Hwangbo way better than Hyori. I find that Hyori tries too hard to be sweet and what not...I'm sure she is a very nice person...I don't think she needs to do all that. I think she is a very beautiful girl with alot of talent, I just don't like how she makes herself into some sort of sex kitten or something. Otherwise, I think I would love her too.

With Hwangbo, I find she doesn't try too hard to standout...well accept when she is laughing and rolling on the floor...lol. She doesn't fall for the flirtatious attempts unless she is good friends with them, and that's pretty toned down...well not with Junjin during that xman ep. That was too funny. Okay, not with the Shinwa...but they look very close as friends and they are protective of her I've notice on shows...just probably me going out of my mind...lol.

As for her being materialistic....did they not see WGM. I mean she was cheesed out of her mind when KHJ made peanut necklace for her. How about when she went to Japan and visited the boys, she was touched with their attempt in making an event....Do they not watch Infinty girls....they have nothing but good to say about her...maybe they are scared of her...lol. I mean I would be too.

If anyone ever notice, the things Hwangbo is good at or can do, its usually other people who says it. Glad to know you tried to fix it. I wouldn't be able too. Can't translate.

Should have sign up first before I wrote this...next time I will sign up. Was nice chatting with you.

Sandra88 said...

hi again,
& yes, I too thought that many of those girly girl sexy icons often tried too hard to look cute & sexy.
But when it's not natural (doesn't come from inside out), it can often look fake or even annoying, kinda backfires.
Even if they might be able to attract guys' (& young girls') attentions for a bit, it won't last long .. that's why they have to keep trying harder & harder, lol.
Isn't tiring for them, especially with so much competition in the fake-beauty world ? ha ha .. they might even look older faster because of that too. LOL.

There's that saying that True beauty should come from within. So even when one isn't even trying to show it, it will still show, shine & glow & will always be able to capture people's heart naturally. Hwangbo has this true natural beauty.

Hwangbo was often teased as being manly & tomboy; & she never tried to be cute & never tried too hard to look sexy. But we saw from tons of xman episodes (as well as Love Letter & War of rose) that guys (any age) like her a lot.
Even HB herself was often surprised. But she was never acting proud about it or felt over-confident. My favourite xman episodes were the ones with Kim Kyung Rok, she looked dazzling as always. She always looks hot, sexy, gorgeous, beautiful & sweet without even trying.

Although HJL chose Hyori over HB when choosing based on the ideal "look" (ideal outer-appearance) only .. HJL said in Come to play that after being married to HB, he might not be able to marry a person that's like his ideal (hyori) type anymore. And at that time, Joongbo wasn't even that close yet.
That's because true beauty is more powerful & will always triumph.

That's why so many famous men are her friends .. I bet many of them are secretly in love with her. Even us women admire her so so much.

About the untrue "materialistic" arguments, I guess those who argued about that hadn't watched WGM or probably thought what's written in the 100 questions thing was true because it was put up (displayed) there by a joongbo fan.

Us joongboers know that HB doesn't care about money, ring, jewellery, etc.. she prefers peanut necklace & paper cranes, she is satisfied with HJL singing for her, with HJ's smile & things that can make her smile, right? ha ha ...
Actually, those were really more romantic & moving than a ring. LOL.

However, we know HB has lots of international fans who don't understand Korean & rely only on the translations. So can't really blame them either since the mistake is with the incorrect translation itself.
The wrong translation says that Hwangbo's dream guy is someone: "... wealthy, willing to pay for her ..".
Of course new fan or those who didn't watch WGM or even anti-fan will misunderstand her as being materialistic.
That's why I hope someone there will eventually read my note & fix it; so that kind of small unnecessary mistake doesn't stop people from becoming HB' fans.
Because the chinese version says the opposite ..

marie said...

Hi Sandra88...signed in so at least you know who you are chatting with somewhat...LOL.

Have you seen the Strong heart episode with KHJL where Danny Anh had to guess whether or not HJL is in a relationship...Danny stated...he is not in a relationship but that he likes someone....and HJL said yes....was ssooo giddy while watching it.

As for HB, was watching the more earlier shows she was in...she was with Rain....and they had to do missions to ge to the next level...it was all korean, so I basically just watched it and guess at what they were trying to do...she was the same then as she is now...she has always been true to herself.

You're right!!! It must be tiring, don't those girls know, that guys likes the thrill of chasing the girl they want to settle with, not the other way around...this is not something new. He needs to make his all out effort to show his sincerity...so she can confirmed how serious he is....HJL is going to have to do some serious thinking and effort if he wants to be with HB.

Hope he will eventually figure it out and not let her get away. He will be forever searching and comparing.

As for the incorrect translation...wasn't it Hong Kong incident being blown out to bits...I laugh so hard when they mentioned about Youngsaeng scratching his crotch in public...it just proves he is a man...lol. I was like ROTFL. Whatever, anti-fans....what can we say.

Still keeping the hope, Joongboers to the world.

Anonymous said...

Hi Marie,

hmm, something weird with the account. I couldn't sign in yesterday & had to change password. Today, it happened again. But this time, it even said that my email address wasn't registered in the system ??
Is there a glitch somewhere with google ? Oh well, I guess I'll just have to go back to anon today, until I can sign back in.

Yes, I watched the Strong Heart episode(s). It was a bit unclear somehow, full of question marks.
Because HJL said that he had a previous 5 months (dating) relationship with a famous celebrity (going fishing, eating sashimi in open market, watch movie in the cinema, etc..) .. but he said that it was "in the past" (& never mentioned exactly when).

First possibility is that he was talking about the dates with HB during WGM & maybe shortly after WGM (probably while preparing for the award performance, etc..).
But since he also said there that he's not a person that lies; this can be a sad news because he said "it happened in the past" .. which means that they're no longer together.

Second possibility is that he was talking about his previous relationship before WGM.

I was guessing those 2 options above because HJ is very popular after WGM, netizens (even overseas in HK, Canada, Macau, etc) always managed to find him. So, it seems unlikely that he dated someone else openly after WGM/BOF without being caught by netizens.
If during/shortly after WGM with HB, then netizens just assume it's part of WGM; hence there wasn't any scandal about it.
But if it's prior to WGM, then it's probably just went unnoticed, because he wasn't that popular then. Even he admitted that he joined WGM because the album wasn't really doing well, etc.
And I was quite surprised when watching xman episodes with HJL on it; because HJL didn't seem popular at all back then. He seemed shy & people didn't seem to pay much attention to him.
So if he went out with anyone (in disguise) back then, I think people wouldn't notice at all.

Of course I (& most joongboers) was hoping that what he meant was that he dated HB openly for about 5 months in the past ... "but still dating secretly with the same someone now" .. ha ha ha ...

I watched HB/Rain episode .. I believe it's the King/Queen thing with them winning at the end. I thought they looked good together & could match. But maybe they could only be good friends, just like now.
Because HB has so many close male friends .. probably too many, lol. Meanwhile, Rain mentioned in one of the shows that he won't allow his girlfriend to be close to her male friends at all .. his girlfriend can never hang out with just her male best friend, etc., because he thought sparks can always start anytime between male & female when alone, so it's too risky.

About HJL & YoungSaeng's HK incident/scandal, there was a tiny bit of a disappointment, regardless of whether it's a blown-up rumour or if it's true. I think many HB & joongbo fans were so sad because it happened around HB's birthday.

Well, today is last day of kids school holiday, lol, so can't browse the net that often anymore from tomorrow onwards, ha ha ..
But hopefully I can see many new more promising news about HB's love life (if not Joongbo's love affair) whenever I visit.

Although HB is NOT interested in wealthy man, I am still thinking that her marrying a wealthy businessman (LOL) might be a good idea. Not because of the luxury life, but because the husband can contribute a lot to her charity works. It will benefit the world .. ha ha ... Just a thought.

Go Joongbo ..

Anonymous said...

they still communicate,all the hint is there. like hyun joong guessting, in ss502 w/ kara .he said he wants to get married early .but before getting married he to go to club first w/ his wife.this interview is recently.[you guys can go to you tube] hyun have another interview and they ask her what kind of ideal girl he like. and he discribed hwangbo character.and he sang a song the one that he sing it to hwangbo in thet farm. number 3. ss501 have a concert i found this in you tube . they ask five of them ..... when it comes to hj . he said i like hwangbo but i love ss501.coz thats the fans wanna hear.i love whe he said! you know im married to hwangbo. and thats marriage. number 4, they meet in new york.when ss501 when to hawaii and la.and hwangbo have a concert in new new york.i believe this 2oo9 in june.and even chonsa and blurryfella87 have a hint.that there still communicating.number 5 hwangbo, hyun joong. and seuongho leader mbaq.radio show.number 6 ss501 when to usa i think december going to january.and even hawngbo she to newyork she have concert in koobar club.december 31 2009. going to january.thats the latest one.

Anonymous said...

when kim hyun joong get sick of he rested in jeju island. and that number 7 hint.

Anonymous said...

To the post above, who believes that they are still communicating...so want to believe...

I remember him saying something like that...was that on intimate note? Will have to watch that again. Regarding the "I like Hwangbo but I love SS501", I just finish watching that again...that's where Kim Hyung Jun Baby said at the end to Kim Hyun Joong to get married...LOL. As for SS501 being in Hawaii and LA, Hwangbo in Newyork...where would they have met? Hawaii and LA...west side of USA and New York totally on the other side, the eastern side....miles and miles apart. Takes a better part of the whole day to travel from one side to the other side of USA by plane...I know...its because of the time savings differential. I so want to believe that they contacted each other despite the obstacles they had to face just to see each other for a moment.

Anonymous said...

to the post above....if you dont believe... then dont... theres air plane right, even though is far or miles and miles away if they want to see each other they could...its really up to you if you believe... if you dont believe... thats okey too.we joongboers really believe. i dont know about you ...maybe ...just maybe your agains joongbo. then you dont belong here. only joongbo belong to this site.OKEY!GOT IT ...... and plus i dont have to explain to you everything ,all you have to do is research ... then you will find what your looking for...okey...:]BYE.....i dont have time for you.....

Anonymous said...

by the way.to the post above me.its me,again ,its only four hour or five .like chicago to la.or chicago to new york five to six hour.its easy to flight then to drive. what are you talking about. whole day to trouble. were you from ... me usa.and as for the concert ss501 .watch it again and again tell you get the massage.thank you!:)smile...

Anonymous said...

I think this "to the post above me" thing is getting too confusing. ha ha ha ...
Maybe should write our communication name on the first line before writing, even if anonymous. Something like,
This is Sandra. Yes, it's me Sandra again. But I still can't log on, I don't know what's wrong with my sign up .. confusing.
But yes, I'm Sandra.

Now, to the first, second posts above me, lol : from the content I'm guessing it's the lcc from the random chatter room, right? lol, because I was replying to you there yesterday.

Anyways, please don't misunderstand the post above you. I think she was just wondering where they would've met because you suddenly listing all those points. Also, some of the details wasn't accurate, I think. I'll try to look again tomorrow & try to list it again, so it's easier to see the link. hope you don't mind. (for example, I think Hwangbo didn't go to US last december - dec 09 / jan 2010. Her performance was in Korea. But what Blurryfella87 mentioned was that they might be together somewhere around 28-31 december 09 in Hong Kong and/or Macau. Maybe not, lol. So, not USA. USA was only in June 2009, New York, & this was only a wild guess based on 2 unclear pictures, lol. I will write more about this picture again tomorrow, my cousin was pretty convinced that it was HJ in those 2 pictures.

To the third post above me, (is that you, Marie? If yes, hi again -- if not marie, then hello, lol) I'll try to answer your questions tomorrow if I get a chance.


I've got to go offline now, so will be back tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

hi, sandra its me lcc hwangbo went to newyork for new years. 12-31-2009 you can see this in the youtube...he have a mini concert. i mean. you mean to say that concert and the date its not true.if thats the case then im wrong... and its both mine ...from above... i was just mad ... im okey now. its not my intentions to confuse everybody.im trying my best of that picture that we saw in the internet. thats why i trying to figure it out.thats why im doing to get all the possible ans. and the clues.okey be write back later on... need to work...bye sandra and thank you ...your a good person...

Anonymous said...

Oh my goodness. I didn't realize I would cause so much chaos just by asking how could they have met...for just a moment it got my hopes up that maybe they did...

Hi Sandra, this is Marie, having same trouble as you too, hence the anonymous heading. Thanks for trying to clear that one up for me.

To lcc...I'm not sure what I said to set you off or think I'm maybe some sort of anti, which is to say I'm way from it....I just wanted to clear it up that I am a very big fan of the Joongbo. So I will say I do apologize in not making myself clear. As Sandra had stated, I was just trying to make sense of the details you had stated...cause I was so excited to think that they, just maybe have met up with each other and that their relationship was going strong.

I'm from Canada, closer to Washington State. So I do have some idea of the travelling time, not the exact time mind you. With the time difference between the East and West side of the country (if we add that in to the equation...so please help me out here)...now I know Hwangbo was in Washington sometime in March cause it was the day I was leaving for a family holiday and she was having her concert that day (I think it was March 14 or 15)....it was pure agony to know she was only 2 hours from me. SS501 was in LA for the Korean music festival, that was in May...hubby wouldn't let me travel alone as I have some health issues and he prefers I don't travel alone, so I again I was in tears just knowing that. Then I found out SS501 went to Hawaii, I think it was in July...I was screaming inside, I was ready to hop on that plane while hubby was at work, then sanity set in, I remembered I had my girls home with me (as it was school holidays). Then I saw on youtube SS501 were walking on the boardwalks of Santa Monica...I'm assuming that was in May(after the music festival) and then they went to Las Vegas for their photo shoot (the one with the black and white pics in and around the limo. It became their cover album...please tell me you know what I'm talking about, so I don't think I dreamed it all.) So then I heard Hwangbo was in New York and she looked great (so thanks for all those who are kind enough to upload all this on the net, in case some of you are reading this...many thanks), hubby does not give me grief knowing there are others like me...lol.

So to the person I angered, I'm sorry I was not clear. I was not questioning that they did meet...I was just trying to understand...cause I read things like how the company is strict and so forth...so I was having trouble how these two star-crossed lovers would ever meet. Unless KHJL defied company rules, ditched them for a moment and met with her...how wonderful that would be...sigh. Then I thought a bit more, then that would make KHJL selfish, and inconsiderate of others who has a time line...which in that case I saw no evidence of that when he was in WGM (I know, it was not a real marriage, which by the way does not mean the love wasn't there...the love was there, you can see it in their eyes on their last episodes of WGM. Okay, I went off on a tangent there for a moment, it was a reality show...the personality that he showed was real) He is consistent at his interviews, variety shows or even when they are goofing off on their own.

So again, sorry for the misunderstanding between us...Sandra thanks so much for clearing things up for me. I so rely on you guys for any news and information on these two. So love them. KHJL has to do something, he just seems to just teased you on those shows where he is asked...if you have a girlfriend, what would you do...Answers it, but leaves you hanging for more...I can understand the frustration Hwangbo had on WGM. Hwangbo is not wrong in saying to just feel it with your heart...

Anonymous said...

to marie, hi, its me lcc... im sorry that i missed understant your comment... any way!!!june 10 2009 ss501 have a concert in hawaii...hwangbo went to new york june 12 to13 ,2009 for mini concert.this one im pretty sure ... i went to ssangcho heaven /joongbo fever and research ...the whole june of 2009...and there is like a poster of the concert and the date.. etc...huyn joong pic in june too... marie ...i dont know if you saw that picture... we were taking about...thats why i research coz of that... im talking to anon , mei hanah. and sandra ...that small chat room ...will you can go there and read wat were saying...and you can figured it out ...why im interested coz anon told me .where is hyun joong?in june 2009...we really trying our best if that guy in the picture is hyun joong...if you did not see this one yet....try the facebook i believe its ssanchu heaven /joongbo facebook... its a small but just click it to make big...and for decemder 31 2009 ...i went too youtube12-31-2009 hwangbo have a concert in koobar club...and ss501 went tu usa to, for a concert....so i dont ifn they saw each other... marie, have you seen that nicklace that they both wearing... go to soompi and there more macthing like rings on there finger and other... im so happy that i went there...ok bye marie and thank you sandra

Anonymous said...

LOL .. I don’t think we need to get too worked up about this, lol.
Just relax & take a deep breath.

Okay, this is Sandra again. Hi lcc & Heya again Marie.
To clear any confusion of info, let me try to look at lcc’s lists of communication/relationship hints a bit.

1. I’m not sure if saying that he wants to go to a club first with his wife before marriage is a proof of relationship between HJ & HB, lol. But the fact that he wants to “get married early” is a very good & promising indication. But it still doesn’t prove that he is currently in relationship with her.

2. When he described his ideal girl, that was in YSMM episode with Kang Ho Dong, etc., as MC, right? He never mentioned HB, so we can only guess. Because he only described things like, “down to earth, is like friend” .. that could be anybody, lol, but I think he might have HB in her mind as a comparison for Ideal girl, especially after they were together in WGM for 7 months. So basically, he was just stating a general idea of his current Ideal Girl …
Also, we have to remember that his Ideal girl even back then way before WGM (during that “please wake me up” reality program thing, his description of ideal girl was already like that too. So it’s nothing new.
Again, this isn’t proof of communication.

As for the song that he said he wanted to sing to his girlfriend, that was the song he sang before HJ left for Japan (not in the farm). He sang it too (the same version) in that YSMM episode. Very nice .. much smoother than in WGM ..
However, we don’t know if he basically just loves this song so much & he just wants to sing it to whoever becomes his gf/wife in the future OR whether he said/sang the song because it’s related to HB. Again, it’s just a guess.

3. When they are asking about whether HJ loves HB more or ss501, I believed that was DURING WGM .. when they were still married. I’m guessing that’s around August-October 2008 in one of the concerts.
So we can’t really use it as a clue of relationship after WGM

4. They met in New York in June 2009. => Never confirmed, but possible.
This was the best guess so far based on the pictures that we have seen in HB’s cyworld.
There were 2 pictures dated June 2009 New York Behind. On page 7 & 8 of her album.
The one on page 8 (the picture in the train station) showed HB very clearly, but there was a guy in black T-shirt walking towards her (not clear, blurry) that looks so much like HJ. Many people speculated that it was Hyun Joong in the picture.

However, then my cousin Hannah saw another picture that’s on page 7 (first photo on top) where there were 4 people (including HB) crossing the road in NY. The guy on the left walking ahead of HB looked similar to the mystery guy in that train station photo, that look like HJ. If you zoomed at the pic, you can see the clothing, pants, shoes & black bag he carried was the same too as the guy in the train station. So, my cousin thought that train station mystery guy was almost definitely part of HB’s NY tour member. As for the question, whether or not the guy was really HJ or someone that looked like him, only HB & HJ & the people in the group will know it for sure. LOL. But yeah, very convincing.

Then we heard that HJ was in Hawaii at the end of May 2009. (I don’t know about the LA concert). The point was that it was extremely possible that HJ flew to NY after the Hawaii concert. And this might be the answer to that 5 month dating openly thing. It’s easy to date openly when they were in US together. Ha ha ha ….

(to be continued in the next post below)

Anonymous said...

(this is the continuation of the above discussion)


5. About the radio show HB, HJ, Seungho (MBLAQ leader) thing …. I don’t think this was a proof of anything, lol. If I remember correctly, HJ was NOT in that radio show at all. It was just MBLAQ & HB. The MC asked HB if she kept any contact with HJ & she said no .. because HJ was busy or something like that. I think she also said that she was not the type that would “initiate” any relationship. So it means that if there’s going to be any relationship, it has to be the guy who initiates it --- I totally agree with HB. Whether or not HB said no contact just to cover up to protect HJ, we don’t know. But her answer was no. Maybe she meant no contact for that radio show hour, ha ha ha ha …..
Again, this didn’t give any clue at all. The show only told us that Seungho’s ideal girl is Hwangbo ,,, which is good. Seungho is pretty cute too.

6. ss501 went to usa in December 09 /January 2010 .. then HB to new york 31 December 2009. I believe this info is totally wrong.
None of them was in US at the end of December 09 or 1st January 2010.

This below was ss501 schedule from Liezle’s Blog that Blurryfella87 quoted in her news :
12/28: Lucia Dental Clinic with YS and baby
12/29: China/ Hong Kong/ Macau???
12/30: China/ Hong Kong/ Macau???
12/31: Macau at night with YS
1/1: Macau???
1/2: Returned to Korea???

Meanwhile, Hwangbo had to perform at a bar in KOREA on 1st January 2010.
Even in Blurryfella87 noted that at this time, the possibility was that they met each other in Hong Kong and/or Macau between 28-31 December 2009. NOT in USA. I think lcc got this info mixed up with the June 09 photo thing.

Once again, the June 09 possibility of meeting was in New York == pure guess based on the pictures.
28-31 December 09 possibility of meeting was in Hong Kong / Macau == based on pic & schedule.

7. HJ rested in Jeju island when he was sick (I think around Sept 09 right?) … but there was never any news about this. This is pure speculation with no proof, just because they had their honeymoon & fairwell journey there. LOL.
I was wondering about that possibility too (in one of my posts somewhere above on this page) .. whether or not HB might be there when he was sick ??? but of course we don’t know the answer to it. The report only said his parents were taking care of him there.


So, the conclusion is that only point 4 & 6 were the hints, but again not clear based on unclear/blurry pictures, schedule & our pure guesses. But very possible. The other points aren’t really clues, according to my observation. Others might think differently, but that’s just how I would see them. Hope this can clear everything.

=Sandra=

Anonymous said...

It's Sandra again, lol.

Just commenting on lcc's last point.
Yes, there was rumours & photos about them having the same pendant necklace & black ring. Because both of them were occasionally seen to wear them here & there, captured in photos/videos.
This has been a very exciting clue for many Joongboers since January 2009 (after they got the Couple Awards).

Well, I'm just hoping that the Hong/Kong and/or Macau meeting was true .. then it means that they're still together.
Because, the ring/pendant & those New York June 09 pics can only complement/explain the "about 5 months dating" thing. Hopefully .. it didn't just last for 5 months .. he he ...

Why did he has to say the word "in the past" at all ??? *sigh* ... ha ha ha .....

Oh well.

I'm okay if HB is with other "handsome/honest/faithful" guy too. It doesn't have to be HJ, if he didn't want to take initiatives.
I saw Kim Kyung Rok as one perfect candidate. KKR seemed to care about HB even more than HJ. lol.

Anonymous said...

Btw, I think that Random chat box is a bit too small ... too tiring to read what's written there, lol. Also, cannot write long paragraphs, had to keep cutting. ha ha ...

I wish there is a bigger box, probably the same size as this one there for random chat.
I prefer chatting here. ha ha ...


Have a fun week ahead everyone.
I'm going offline now.

=Sandra=

Anonymous said...

HI Sandra , this lcc! yah i understant now .thank you so much. for that statement.

Anonymous said...

hi sandra and marie, its lisa , need your help... i went to soompi...im so exited!!! oo my gosh... you know that picture... somebody ,i forgot the name...will anyway that picture from hwangbo and hyun joong in america... its posted and there another picture. there! thats its really hyun joong with similar to that bag or travelling bag that his carrying and owner is trying to figured it out the date etc... i was gonna help here but,,, im new at this so you guys can help here ...coz she said ,shes going crazy figuring out... that means hyun joong and hwangbo is secretly dating for real... no wonder seoungho is backing out ...about liking hwangbo..... they really know....this is lcc ...so happy

Anonymous said...

hi sandra and marie,,,,, its lcc , cont...to the post above...i even saw a picture that is november of 2009 ,,,hyun is wearing a ring ... note: left hand ring thats only if your marriage... and the ring is like marriage ring like.... i mean there not marriage yet right...but how come he have to put it in there...in the marriage left hand side area... go to soompi guys ... and find out... very happy:)this lcc again....

Anonymous said...

hi sandra, and marie,,, its lcc again,just being excited...and happy...its getting more obvious now. about hj and hb... day by day,wow!!! love is in the air...

Anonymous said...

sandra and marie , just call me lisa or lcc i accidentally put my name in there...oh my goodness my name is revealed... will what can i do,...at least its just my name... there a lot of lisa anyway,right!

Anonymous said...

sandra and marie its lisa or lcc. 1.june 2009 picture in amrerica.and there a back up picture ... soompi with hyun joong travelling bag that similar to the one in the picture that we saw...just look at soompi.plus its really hyun joong ... 2.november 2009 if you to soompi ...hyun joong is wearing aring in the marriage area ring... why is that... 3.blurry fella and chonsa revealed that travelling thing .,the hongkong , macau...etc... 4.january 2009 joongboers saw alot of similarities ,of there accesorries... and more stuff, like blanket. hot for winter...etc... 5.that new video from .youtube that says , says im david kim hyun joong,showing his favorite shirt,strip black and white ,also hwangbo,s favorite and the t-shirt in side is skull.if you look at the back ground or mirror its shows the skull... 6. if you to soompi again .one of the post. there you click it.its hwangbo and his purse is skull... whats up w/that skull?right 7.seungho back up of having crush on hb...wonder why,and he said he dont want to get into trouble... ok bye for now!

Anonymous said...

Hi Sandra and Lisa, this is Marie.

I put most of my comment on the Seoulung news--Febuary posting..lol cause I read that one first. Let me know when you read it...as I ask the "why can't they be together" and somewhat answered...lol.

Thanks again Sandra for the very detailed evidence..lol. It sort of reminded me KHJL in WGM...do you remember ep 30...he gives the poison then the antidote to HB...my emotions is in a roller coaster...lol. You got my hopes up only to bring me back to sanity. LOL. Your awesome though.

Lisa, its good to know you're not mad anymore...as for the Soompi thing...I'm just as lost as you are, probably more...that's why I rely on so much on this blog...plus it allows me meet others like you and Sandra, someone to talk about this. So do you want me to address you from now on as lcc, Marie is my nickname, not my full name...so no worries.

As you say Sandra, I'm okay too if KHJL and HB finds other love somewhere else...they might compare...but all right...They both deserve to be happy.

There are just too many to coincidences, don't you think...the only thing that is denied is HB having any contact with him...have you seen KHJL being asked that same question, cause I haven't...if he was...he did say he can't lie well.

Anonymous said...

To Marie,

LOL, don't be sad.
Although nothing seems to be clear, through all our guesses & observations in relation to the interviews, clues, etc., I personally think the chance that they're still together & will probably get married soon is around 88%. That's my personal guess.

I was quite skeptical last year, having heard about the Hong Kong scandal, having watched the annoying ideal girl world cup, etc.., not having seen them together in any shows after WGM ended. I almost gave up on future joongbo reunion; & was ready to hear their individual good news :)

However, re-watching all the episodes again (for probably the 12th time now? lol ...), analyzing all these clues, etc., I think there's still great hope, LOL. Still a big chance that it will finally happen soon. So yeah, we'll hang in there .. or here .. right? ha ha ha ....


Well, if you're not interested in joining soompi, then I guess we'll just chat here whenever we're here :)
But if you change your mind & decide to visit there .. just look for me there, lol. They have many new info & update there everyday. So times seem to move a bit faster. ha ha ha ....

=Sandra=

Anonymous said...

hi marie, yah,sandra is right.soompi!, lot more imformation is there ...all the hints,the evidence,the picture,the nickclace,the blankets,the rings,and more,...etc.,anyway, i hope that you can the promise of love of hyun joong and hwangbo. although is fanpic ,when read it if feel so real is like somne body know them for real and make a story of it...its written on chinese and somewhere in asia. i think code name gaga translated to english the whole whole 38 chapter... enlish version...i really wish you can join there ,like sandra said you move a bit faster . bye for now going work. just lcc ok!

Anonymous said...

to marie, im sorry im missing some words in there ,what im trying to say.i hope yoiu acn join in.and i wish that you read the Promise of love of hyun joong and hwangbo...thanks its lcc

Anonymous said...

hi sandra,its lcc, i know this sounds funny but i feel like your the leader of joongboers.and thats good im loving it ... i saw your blog to soompi ...im so proud of you. your the best...ok bye for now

Anonymous said...

hi sandra ,its me lcc .i went to soompi just now .i just want to say. i love what you did on the picture of hyun joong and hwangbo.its like christmas light or a star that shine, love it....love is in the air of hwangbo and hyun joong ......thanks bye

Anonymous said...

To lcc,
thanks for the compliment, lol, I happened to have some time yesterday, so I thought I should make myself a sweet Joongbo siggy to celebrate their love .. it's Valentine's Day soon after all. ha ha ha ...

as for your comment about me being leader of joongboers .. LOL .. I don't think I'm qualified at all, ha ha .. far from being qualified I must say. There are so so many totally devoted Joongboers out there in this world .. I'm just one of the supporters like you all.

Wow, I wonder what Joongbo will give each other for Valentine's ??? Hmmmmmm ..


Like I mentioned in Soompi, according to my rough calculation, HJ's 1000 paper crane gifts (along with the promise of love) is good at least until around 21st May 2011. ha ha ha ha .... Then he had to start folding turtles, like he promised, right? LOL.
So, in the mean time, maybe he can make her cute candy or fruit necklace. ha ha ha ....
Or better yet, just give her an engagement ring for Valentine's Day .. we all support that idea, don't we ??? LOL.

= Sandra =

Anonymous said...

Hey Sandra and lcc, Marie here speaking (or writing if you want to be technical about it).

Sandra...I have to agree with lcc, you are the ring leader, at least to me...lol. Thanks to Chonsa, I don't know who else I can converse with and then lcc comes along...its starting to be a cirlce for me....lol.

All right you two, I will try Soompi...is there a link or do I just type in Soompi. Will I be able to find you there...how does that work...I will try to log in, hopefully I will be able to navigate myself in there.

I was looking into the korean music festival for this year...tried to log in, wouldn't let me, likely due to my being from Canada...would you know if there is a number I can call to inquire...I don't speak nor understand Korean...trying to, however, do you guys know anything about it...my children are willing to come with me, likely my goddaughter too (ages 10-14), so I was looking into purchasing tickets...then, hopefully to LA I go.

Anonymous said...

Ah, Marie, you'll be even more excited with all the spazz, news, chats there in soompi everday, because there are more people visiting daily.
Oh, and I'm sure someone will have info there about the Korean Music Festival, they're all very helpful.

I don't know if we're allowed to post link here in the comment.
So, just google soompi joongbo. You'll see the link for the official joongbo site.
Once you're there you'll see the first page has some wedding pictures on it. Bookmark that page you can always come back to it easily.
Then click the >> button to go to the last page. (since there are over 1000 pages already, lol). I posted there in the last few pages. You will be able to find me there; just register to be able to post.

= Sandra =

Anonymous said...

hi marie,,,its lcc.all you have to do is,type soompi.com,second if your there you have to register. then after that go to forums ,and find korean celeb photo...then after that scroll down and look for joongbo couple hyunjoong hwangbo ,and when you click that.... your there but you have to put the number down coz its like 1358 already,...
ok see yah there,,,,...regarding your korean song concert i think is best to go to soompi alot of people will help you there... like sandra said....again its lcc

Anonymous said...

hi sandra, its lcc how are you, hope your fine....sandra i ask one neewgm to help me ...i tell , him or her that, i saw hyun joong wearing blue jacket with ss501 radio show interview ,they even sing a song love like this,. and hwangbo jacket is they same as him . just the color thats different ,... hwangbo ,... i think his wearing orange ,yellow or gold.. not sure!hope she or he can post it... i saw hwangbo wearing that in FINDING DELICIOUS FOOD recently...sandra do you mind doing that if he does not post it... just want to share,... dont know how to do it yet.... thank you very much

Anonymous said...

sandra its lcc, neewgm did it already,...so its ok now... i will learn how to post.so i can join in...hopefully i will learn soon...thank sandra.... hoping that marie , me and you will see each other in person ...god only knows.just thingking.will you never know right...its lcc

Anonymous said...

sandra its lcc im gonna live a massage to your mail box on soompi .ok

Anonymous said...

@lcc: Ok.

=Sandra=

Anonymous said...

to lcc...I've signed in with Soompi and message Sandra...still looking for you there...just wanted to let you know.

Chonsa...this is the last posting not relating to the issue at hand...thanks for your patience. Looking forward to more of your posting and thanks for this blog...a chance to make new friends with common interest...you're the best.

Marie

Anonymous said...

Thanks to Chonsa & Blurryfella87 for your patience & understanding & for not getting angry at us, who sometimes write too long & sometimes irrelavant to the blog topic, lol.

Loving your blogs always & can't wait for more ...

=Sandra=

Nisa said...

I'm a cassiopeia and also the ssangchu couple supporters.
So, To the World, Always keep the faith!! ^^

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